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  Howtogo1 month, 3 weeks ago

  Sounds about right for big government! If the back fire did not add to the size of what the fire would do anyway, did not endanger firefighters or civilians and did not cause the destruction to others property they should be commended not judged. I would do the same if government firefighting equipment was not available to protect my home.

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      ghengisghan1 month, 2 weeks ago

      No, it s an attack on people saving theyre property akin to killing a burglar because the police couldnt or wouldnt respond.

      I grew up in the HIgh Sierras in Nevada. We had a terracotta tile roof with sprinklers on it and kept a 300ft radius clear of brush, grass and trees to protect our home in case of wildfires.It is illegal to do that now because of enviromenatist nuts....we wouldnt want to endanger the three toed flea parasite or some such bs.

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      Howtogo1 month, 2 weeks ago

      Luis-Cifer, Wowâ;¦ In your rush to judge others you missed the entire point. The point is they did not endanger others, firefighters or civilians (from what the article stated). There was no firefighting equipment there to protect their home (not the governments fault) so they did what I would recommend others to do. Clear your weeds from around your home before any fire starts remain with your home to extinguish spots fires after the fire passes and if necessary back fire around your home.

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        Wolfie20071 month, 2 weeks ago

        Howtogo

        You missed Luis' point.

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          Howtogo1 month, 2 weeks ago

          Wofie2007: Actually I did get Louis point. but I did not want to add to his "you are anti-government and anti-American mantra." I wanted to simply state there are times when you can't wait for government intervention. When you do something the government does not like they will try to punish you.

          The guys did what they had to, and it all worked out best for everyone, including the firefighting crews. I also don't engage in name calling. It does nothing to help people make their case.

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      Wolfie20071 month, 2 weeks ago

      Luis

      Ditto, on everything you wrote about populism. It's just another socialist scam.

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      disraeli1 month, 2 weeks ago

      Luis,

      Don't know - it strikes me that these guys are the embodiment of that American icon, the self reliant individualists, preferring their own hard work and ingenuity over that of a sometimes (oft times) distant and disconnected government.

      Further I gather from the story that the official firefighting strategy was to abandon their homes to the whims of the fire and mother nature.

      Based on your reaction (and my comments apply equally to Wolfie) are you in favor of big government deciding when and if they will protect your home or would you like some say in that matter yourself.

      I would have thought, based on the tenor of your comments generally, you would have naturally sided with the individual over the government. I guess I was wrong.

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      bruhaha1 month, 2 weeks ago

      Populist a socialist...heh....

      more like a libertarian

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  PsychoHosebeast1 month, 3 weeks ago

  This is definitely a load of crap, and I hope they have the charges dropped. I saw some fire marshall on TV this morning and he was saying "WHAT IF something had gone wrong?" "WHAT IF a firefighter had been injured?" "WHAT IF..."

  Yeah, what if monkeys fly out of my ass? What if this place burned and they lost everything they owned? No one died, nothing went wrong. These guys saved their property, something the firefighters were too busy to do, fighting fires elsewhere. I suppose they're mostly p!ssed off because they were shown up.

  And, Populist, as for your comment about "a swarm of incompetent and expensive government fire parasites," I'd suggest you haul your fat ass out on the fire line for three weeks solid, trying to save some a-hole's (if you see yourself in this sentence, there's a reason for that) personal property, instead of sitting in an air-conditioned room whining and bitching all day long. No offense, of course.

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    ciera-marie1 month, 2 weeks ago

    Agreed with the first two paragraphs of your statement.

    While I may not have agreed with populist's choice of words to describe the fire department in the area (remember developments often grow faster than the public services do in the newer areas. The result being the first responders in the surrounding areas take longer to get there. Often the newer developments aren't on maps yet so that adds to the time it'll take to get there. Also the suburbs of major cities have volunteer firefighters.) it doesn't change the fact that homeowners saved their home.

    Like I said I agreed with the first two paragraphs of your comment.

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  Charlson1 month, 2 weeks ago

  I would do almost anything to save my property too. And damn the people who would try to stop me. If the officials had time to visit the guy's property several times to tell him to quit, then why didn't they have the time to help?

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  Truzseeker1 month, 2 weeks ago

  I live in the same general vicinity of populist and had been in the middle of several wild fires going on in San Diego county before moving. During one of those San Diego wildfires, I also called my brother that lived in harms way. He reported to me that he could see the fire coming over the ridge, and was on his way to save his home along with everyone in the neighborhood. No one government hired idiot interfered with their efforts to be ready, and there was no "what ifs". Some people need to get off of feeling secure believing in a nanny state, and get on with learning and being responsible. As for my neighborhood I talked to several of the neighbors, and we all pooled our resources together to protect each other since fire fighting personnel had already been spread too thin being in several areas all at one time. Also the fire department at that time was encouraging people to form their own fire brigades.

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  ciera-marie1 month, 2 weeks ago

  Okay those that disagree with what the brothers did, did you even read the article?

  Micah who set the fire learned how to do it as a SEASONED fire fighter. From the article "In the last 25 years, they have fought back flames twice before, he said. He learned how as a seasonal firefighter while in college." (Bet he was a fire jumper.)

  Also from the article: "With their tenants, friends and relatives stepping up to help, they used chain saws, hoes and shovels to clear fire breaks around the buildings, hauling away at least 150 pickup-truck loads of vegetation, Micah Curtis said." Sounds to me like they know what they're doing. By setting the controlled burns they were also able to help the fire crews protect the village below.

  A CA state fire captain and US forest service crew leader praised him. Their property is listed as undefensable, meaning there was no fire crews coming. What were they supposed to do? They don't have the money to rebuild.

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  walden31 month, 2 weeks ago

  I'm not sure whether they shoulda, because their act could have endangered others. Imagine if everyone set back fires.

  That being said big brother is getting bigger and badder and the day is going to have to come where we shrink the size and budget of the jack booted thugs. Enough. Enough cops. Enough black outfitted ninjas. Enough military in our midst. Enough seizure of guns. Enough forcing people to leave their homes. Enough telling people what is best for them.

  Enough.

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  simonsez1 month, 2 weeks ago

  If something goes wrong, then charge them with something.

  If not, turn 'em loose. They did what they should have done ... We have a right to protect our lives and property.

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  bruhaha1 month, 2 weeks ago

  Since they had experience and know what they were doing, didn't cause other peoples houses to be burnt, let them go. At some point, you've gotta take a "no harm done" stand on something like this.

  However, I wouldn't want someone who doesn't know what they're doing to burn down my house to save theirs.

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  bruhaha1 month, 2 weeks ago

  Since they had experience and know what they were doing, didn't cause other peoples houses to be burnt, let them go. At some point, you've gotta take a "no harm done" stand on something like this.

  However, I wouldn't want someone who doesn't know what they're doing to burn down my house to save theirs.

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  jordan111 month, 2 weeks ago

  "I understand what's going on. They don't want a bunch of idiots setting off fires that could do more harm than good," Micah Curtis, a 57-year-old artist, said as he walked the scene of the crime Saturday. "But we saved our homes. I'm not asking them to condone it, but they've got to understand it.">>>>>

  He put that very well. Surely there's room to consider each 'offense' individually. But I need to say something about the lead in to this story; "A family courageously and successfully protects its 55 acres of private property from a huge fire and a swarm of incompetent and expensive government fire parasites." This "fire parasites" remark is uncalled for! My nephew is a fire jumper, & has been involved in fighting these fires for weeks. He's a good man who does a hard job, and calling him a "parasite" is crap. So I'll sink this one.

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    ghengisghan1 month, 2 weeks ago

    I dont believe the refernce was about firefighters or fire jumpers....

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      bruhaha1 month, 2 weeks ago

      I read it exactly as that, a slam against the firefighters.

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