The logic of resistance »
Posted by: jovial 2 months, 1 week agoIt should be apparent that the problem in Palestine is not just simply a problem of checkpoints, human rights abuses, the wall, home demolitions, the architecture of occupation or even the siege of Gaza; the core of the problem is the illegal theft, colonization and occupation of a whole country.
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jovial2 months, 1 week ago
Some posters have attacked me in the past for posting stories that sympathize with Palestinians. Well I didn't listen. They have a valid point and until the Israeli's accept it, they will have fodder. Let me say, however, that the violence on both sides needs to stop. The U.S> role in this shouldn't be to take sides, but to actually defund the military escalation. Today the U.S. just pledged another 170 million in military aide to Israel. WHY? Didn't Israel just do a mock bombing run on Iran? Maybe that's the reason for the additional aide. Are we using the aggressive tendencies of our ally to fight our war by proxy?
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Thinker222 months, 1 week ago
> Today the U.S. just pledged another 170 million in military aide to Israel. WHY? Didn't Israel just do a mock bombing run on Iran?
Israel did and does prepare for a possible Iranian attack against Israel. It is both legal and reasonable to do. If Iran will not try to attack Israel nothing will happen. Israel does not have any reasons to attack Iran nor will it gain anything from attacking it. On the other hand, Iran did and does declare that Israel should be destroyed.
If the US will stop supporting Israel Iranian and Arab leaders will see it as a green light for an attack resulting in a large scale nuclear war that will certainly damage and, possibly, destroy the human civilization as we know it.
The only valid point Palestinians may have is their willingness to live in peace (if it exist, of course). If and when the Palestinians will declare their wilingness to stop violence and negotiate peace Israel will listen.
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Thinker222 months, 1 week ago
> Some posters have attacked me in the past for posting stories that sympathize with Palestinians. Well I didn't listen.
Yes, you did not listen and for very good reason. If you did you would show the STATEMENT IN THE UN PARTITION RESOLUTION 181 saying that "all of it (the land in Palestine)" belongs to the Arabs, wouldn't you?
Alternatively, you would admit that your claim that according to the UN Partition Resolution 181 "all of it (the land in Palestine)" belonged to the Arabs was A LIE.
...but you did not listen...
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hyperbola2 months, 1 week ago
Actually that resolution is completely irrelevant since it was REJECTED by the Security Council (with US approval). The Security Council and the General Assembly then set out to set up a UN protectorate in ALL of Palestine with equal rights for all religions. The zionist ethnic cleansing pogroms of 1948 were undertaken to avoid equal rights for all.
But then, you like to lie.
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HMMace2 months, 1 week ago
THIS IS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF CRAP I HAVE EVER READ..
BEING SO OLD--BUT WITH A MEMORY THAT REMEMBERS MY YOUTH--REMEMBER WHEN--IN THE FIFTYS --PALISTINE TERRORISTS WERE SHOOTING JEWISH SCHOOL BUSES ON THIER WAY TO SCHOOL.. EITHER THE PALS ARE KILLLING JEWISH KIDS, OR THEY ARE SENDING THIER KIDS IN WITH BELLY BOMBS..NICE PEOPLE THESE PALS/..THEY LIKE TO KILL KIDS--NO MATTER WHOSE.....THE PALS SHOULD HAVE BEEN RUN IN TO THE SEA BY THE JEWS FIFTY YEARS AGO..EVEN BEFORE THEY HIRED THIER JEW KILLER ARAFAT.
REMEMBER--THE PALS HIRED THIS EGYTPIAN TO KILL JEWS FOR THEM..ARAFAT WAS AN EGYPTIAN TERRORIST BEFPORE HE BECAME A PAL...
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DanmLiberals2 months, 1 week ago
The only reason there is a Palestine is because of Israel. Palestine is a made up name for a made up country. Did the Palestinians fight off six country's in order to defend their land? Nope, Israel did.
Palestine is being used by Liberals and terrorists as a way to make people feel angry towards Israel. They don't care about Palestinians. The Libs feel that because Republicans support Israel, the Libs. should support Palestine. Even if Pals are firing rockets into Israel, Israeli's are occupiers for trying to stop the attacks.
Anyone know what Obama for change will do to Israel? Maybe he will start supplying weapons to Palestinians instead of Israeli's. That's change right?
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Thinker222 months, 1 week ago
> Maybe he will start supplying weapons to Palestinians instead of Israeli's. That's change right?
That's a possibility. Hopefully, a remote one considering today's reports about Hezbollah and Hamas preparations for terrorist attacks in Canada, the US, Europe and other palces. Obama's weapons may be handy... Fat chance!
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CHAM2 months, 1 week ago
I think everyone commenting on this article should seriously read some history. I am not speaking of propaganda, I speaking of history.
Start back in the 1880's about the Russian Pogroms and go forward thru the first race riot in I believe 1920.
As I recall from my history reading, when the Pogroms began there were very few Jews in Palestine. The Palestinians offered to take the Russian Jews in so that they could live in peace with their Palestinian brothers.
And things were OK until there became a sizeable number (about 10% of the population ) of Jews in Palestine. Also the Zionist movement was busy at work fomenting discord between the residents of Palestine.
Lord Balfour later got into the act, convincing the Jews that the Palestinian lands weere theirs by God's decree.
As they say the rest is history.
I choose to say that after WWII the Jews put their learned Nazi inhumanity to work on the arabs of Palestine.
For Shame.
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Thinker222 months, 1 week ago
> As I recall from my history reading... Palestinians offered to take the Russian Jews in so that they could live in peace with their Palestinian brothers.
Can you show a link to your history reading if you don't mind? I'm somewhat confused with it because in the 1880 the 'Palestinians' were unknown to the world.
As a matter of fact, the Palestinian Brigade that was fighting the Nazis as a part of the British Army 60 years later consisted entirely of... Jews.
The first time the definition of 'Palestinians' as "Arabs who lived in Palestine" was in 1968 when the Palestinian National Charter was published and the Palestinian nation was created.
In addition, there is another little problem with your statement above. In 1880 Palestine was a part of the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) so it would be the Turks (and not the yet non-existing Palestinians) who would "offer to take the Russian Jews in"... but this would be in the REAL world, of course.
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RiccoRizzo2 months, 1 week ago
Good AND CORRECT history review CHAM, and my vote for you was meant to be a Good pos one, i'll aim more carefully next time!
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1-2-Oscar2 months, 1 week ago
The entire State of Israel is a hostile and illegal "settlement" created amid the Arab population of the area by imposition of force. The establishment of Zionist communities in the area of the West Bank is merely a continuation of activities which have been ongoing for more than a century.
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Thinker222 months, 1 week ago
As usual, I have to express my appreciation to all posters giving a NEGATIVE BUT NO REPLY to what I've said.
A NEGATIVE means (or at least, suggests) that the person giving it READ MY STATEMENT.
NO REPLY means that this person AGREED WITH EVERY WORD I'VE SAID. If it was not the case he/she would say what, in his/her opinion, was wrong.
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