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"Gitmo prisoners are treated better than most other prisoners outside of the USA or for that matter prisoners in most state pens." Irrelevant statement my friend.
Defending them?
Get a grip on reality my friend, I am defending the rule of law. The Gitmo detainees had legal rights that were upheld by the supreme court after being violated by the Bush admin for years. That is why Bush et al were given retroactive immunity by the war powers act enacted by the republican lead 109th congress.
If they don't have rights than neither do you or I.
Why do you defend a president who has engaged in war crimes, torture for one example.
"Jimmy Carter signed the PLO protection act from the UN giving them rights they didn't deserve. Again irrelevant, deserved or undeserved the law granted them - that is reality." Are you the judge, jury and executioner?
Or is it the law enforcement brain washing taking over.
I would sure not want to be in your custody for even the most inconsequential crime.
Tegan this is just too rich to leave alone:
"Gitmo prisoners are treated better than most other prisoners outside of the USA or for that matter prisoners in most state pens. "
Were you ever at Gitmo in a official capacity?
If your statement is true it speaks poorly for law enforcement incharge of legally operating "pens" in this country, ya think?
No offense but I'll take Teagens words about how they are treated over yours. She is of course an officer in the military. (As is a brother of mine who happens to agree with he on the treatment of prisoners at Gitmo.)
tanglang no offense taken
However would they also give their word that the detainees at Abu Ghareb were treated just as decently and with dignity while at the same time viewing the pictures of the torture that we have all seen occured there?
Read this http://www.pen.org/downloads/documents/adminstr...
Pay particular attention to page A-187 which states:
ARMED FORCES INSTITUTE OF PATHOLOGY
Office of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner
1413 Research Blvd., Bldg. 102
Rockville, MD 20850
1-800-944-7912
Landstuhl Regional Medical Center
Landstuhl, Germany, APO AE 09180
DSN 486-7492
CIV 011 (49) 6371-86-7492
AUTOPSY EXAMINATION REPORT
mce,
Name: Blanked out Autopsy No.: A02-95 (Landstuhl
R.M.C. Autopsy Number)
SSAN AFIP No.: 2859183
Date of Birth: Unknown, age approx. 35 yrs. Rank: Civilian, Afghani national
Date/Time of Death: 10 Dec 2002/0200z Place of Death:
Bagram Collection
Point, Bagram Air Field, Afghanistan
DatefI'ime of Autopsy: 13 Dec 2002/1000 Place of Autopsy: Bagram Air Field Date of Report: 25 Feb 2003 Afghanistan
Circumstances of Death: Approximately 35 year old Afghan male detainee who was found unresponsive restrained in his cell in the Bagram Collection Point, and pronounced dead on arrival at the 339's CSH, Bagram Air Field, Afghanistan.
Authorization for Autopsy: The Armed Forces Medical Examiner, JAW 10 USC 1471.
Identification: Visual; Post mortem dentel examination performed; Fingerprints and DNA specimen obtained.
CAUSE OF DEATH: Blunt force injuries to lower extremities complicating coronary artery disease
MANNER OF DEATH: Homicide
FINAL AUTOPSY DIAGNOSES:
I. Blunt force injuries to bilateral lower extremities with rhabdomyolysis
a. Extensive soft tissue hemorrhage with muscle necrosis
i, Involving bilateral legs, extending from upper thighs to upper calves and bilateral inguinal regions
ii. Nearly circumferential muscle damage, from subcutis to level of periosteum of femurs
iii. Histologically, extensive muscle destruction with necrosis
MEDCOM-29
DOD 003156
A-187
The 1st key point here being: MANNER OF DEATH: Homicide
The second: Murdered while in military custody.
Believe what you will tanglang and believe what you don't.
Of course this may just be more of that looney liberal propaganda I hear tell of. I mean he could of beat himself to death, right???
I don't know. We could ask them what their thoughts on that are.