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Did Israel Drive Out the Arabs 60 Years Ago?

Do No Evil – Israel is about to celebrate its 60th birthday, but alone among the nations of the world, its legitimacy and right to exist continue to be considered matters of debate.

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FTA: "So even now, even after triumphing over so much adversity in its all too eventful first 60 years, Israel is not considered a normal country. The campaign of delegitimization launched by its enemies has succeeded to a tremendous degree in persuading ordinary people that Israel was conceived in sin. That sin was the dispossession of the Palestinians, the rightful inhabitants of the land now called Israel. Second only to the claim that Iran seeks nuclear power for peaceful purposes, this is the most sinister lie in circulation."

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Lie my ass. From the beginning, the zionist passed the cannard that the land was uninhibited. What was the slogan, " A people for the land that has no people" The dispossesing of the Palestinian people was a well thought out plan from the beginning. Groups like the Stern Gang and Irgrun used terrorist tactics to drive people away from their lands. I have met people that still have keys and deeds to their property that the European Jews stole from them. As far as Iran and nukes are concerned, how are you so f'n sure that they're trying to develop nukes? The late Ayatollah Khomenei thought they were evil and he said the Islamic republic would never aquire them. What the Iranians are doing is they're right. At least they are signatories to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, unlike the zionist entity

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"What the Iranians are doing is they're right. At least they are signatories to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, unlike the zionist entity"

Funny, Abu. Sure they signed it. And then they were caught by the UN lying about their program over nearly 20 years.

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Comment meant to address Abumirahs post:

Abu, I don't know anybody that says Palestine was uninhabited.

What is known is that it was not a nation with a formalized government, right?

Liek it or not, poeple around the world who have been unable or unwilling to gather together under a Constitution and develop a government are 'fair game' to those who are better organized and have a clearer vision.

Indeed, did not the Palestinians reject the Peel Commision Partition plan which would have provided the framework for a Palestinian state?

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You need to look at Theodre Herzl's first proclimations regarding Palestine. One of the early mantra's of zionism was a land for a people for a people without a land. He tried to sway international ideas that Palestine was spartiallly populated and that it was suitable to zionist expansionism. Don't trust me do your research. It's out there for all to see

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Abu

First of all "uninhibited" is when you drink too much and you lose your "inhibitions".

Israel went to war (after being attacked) with it's Arab neighbors, more than once. Guess who won every time.

The winner of a war gets to decide the conditions of surrender for the loser, and has control over whatever was gained. As a result of Japan and Germany (the vanquished) agreeing to the conditions of surrender dictated by the U.S. and it's allies (the victors) at the close of WWII, both countries went on to rejoin the international community and became two major economic world powers.

When was the last time Mexico sent suicide bombers over the Rio Grande to get back Texas? Never, because they accepted their loss gracefully. The "Palestinians" don't want to move on, accept their loss, join the rest of the world and improve the lives of their people for one simple reason. Killing Jews is more important to them than their own children.

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At least they had the good grace to lie. Israel is just defiant, denying that it has nuclear weapons but able to assemble them in minutes, and they are rewarded immensely for it.

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At least they had the good grace to lie. Israel is just defiant, denying that it has nuclear weapons but able to assemble them in minutes, and they are rewarded immensely for it.

How rich. Lying is a "good grace"? Is Iran not defiant of the UN? Israel neither confirms nor denies it's capabilities.

"Egypt would receive $1.3 billion in military aid and $400 million in economic aid, the same as current U.S. assistance.

"Egypt receives the second largest amount of U.S. assistance. Israel receives $2.3 billion in U.S. military aid per year."

http://www.menewsline.com/stories/2006/may/05_2...

Also a rather large reward, wouldn't you say?

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The last I checked, Egypt and Iran were not the same country. I wouldn't give any of them anything or sell any of them weapons or send soldiers to any of them, and I would bring home all the soldiers we have in the Middle East now.

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FTA

"The Jews fled Arab nations because of persecution. Why did the Arabs flee the new Jewish state? (Note, many remained and became citizens of Israel.) Writing in the most recent issue of Commentary, Efraim Karsh reviews some of the new evidence that has come to light about the events of 1948. Not only did the Jews not force the Arabs out of their homes, they made many vain efforts to persuade them to stay put. The 6,000 Arabs of Tiberias, in a typical example, were forced to leave by their own leaders, over strenuous objections from Jewish leaders."

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The lead article is just more zionist propaganda craappp that honest isrealis (like this one) don't even believe, but which can be fed to ignorant americans by israel-first traitors.

Oren Ben-Dor: Who are the real terrorists in the Middle East?

.. What exactly is being defended by the violence in Gaza and Lebanon? Is it the citizens of Israel or the nature of the Israeli state? I suggest the latter. Israel's statehood is based on an unjust ideology which causes indignity and suffering for those who are classified as non-Jewish by either a religious or ethnic test. To hide this primordial immorality, Israel fosters an image of victimhood. Provoking violence, consciously or unconsciously, against which one must defend oneself is a key feature of the victim-mentality. By perpetuating such a tragic cycle, Israel is a terrorist state like no other.

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Many who wish to hide the immorality of the Israeli state do so by restricting attention to the horrors of the post-1967 occupation and talking about a two-state solution, since endorsing a Palestinian state implicitly endorses the ideology behind a Jewish one.

The very creation of Israel required an act of terror. In 1948, most of the non-Jewish indigenous people were ethnically cleansed from the part of Palestine which became Israel. This action was carefully planned. Without it, no state with a Jewish majority and character would have been possible. Since 1948, the "Israeli Arabs", those Palestinians who avoided expulsion, have suffered continuous discrimination. Indeed, many have been internally displaced, ostensibly for "security reasons", but really to acquire their lands for Jews.

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To sustain that mentality and to preserve an impression of victimhood among outsiders, Israel must breed conditions for violence. Whenever prospects of violence against it subside, Israel must do its utmost to regenerate them: the myth that it is a peace-seeking victim which has "no partner for peace" is a key panel in the screen with which Israel hides its primordial and continuing immorality.

Israel's successful campaign to silence criticism of its initial and continuing dispossession of the indigenous Palestinians leaves the latter no option but to resort to violent resistance. In the wake of electing Hamas - the only party which, in the eyes of Palestinians, has not yet given up their cause - the Palestinian population of Gaza and the West Bank were subjected to an Israeli campaign of starvation, humiliation and violence.

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The truth is that there never could have been a partition of Palestine by ethically acceptable means. Israel was created through terror and it needs terror to cover-up its core immorality. Whenever there is a glimmer of stability, the state orders a targeted assassination, such as that in Sidon which preceded the current Lebanon crisis, knowing well that this brings not security but more violence. Israel's unilateralism and the cycle of violence nourish one another.

Amidst the violence and despite the conventional discourse which hides the root of this violence, actuality calls upon us to think. The more we silence its voice, the more violently actuality is sure to speak.

Silence about the immoral core of Israeli statehood makes us all complicit in breeding the terrorism that threatens a catastrophe which could tear the world apart.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentato...

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Taqqiya? Hard to tell when a Muslim like hyperebola is telling the truth, thanks to Quran 3:28 and 16:106.

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Good article, SonOfTheMask, thanks for posting it.

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Happy Birthday Israel. I for one hope you survive.

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abntv, Israel is the apple of God's eye. It will never be destroyed. God will step in at the moment that Israel is in peril. So it is written and so it will be done.

No worries:)

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"God will step in at the moment that Israel is in peril. "

Yeah. Because God's always been so good to the Jewish people.

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God my ass, but it'll be Northrop Grumman, Lockheed, Raytheon,General Dynamics and other Offense companies that will come to its defense

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Inshalla

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So there's no need for the US to play as Israel puppy, is it?

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I'm with Abntv. We must never abandon our Ally!

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Its f_cked up that my tax dollars are used to do it. Especially when those rat bastards spy on us.

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Isreal is no firend or ally of america. They are the biggest albatross around our neck and cost us a fortune in both lives and money to continue their crimes against humanity.

Don't Blame The Inmates Of The Israeli Lunatic Asylum

Do No Evil รข;; Israeli and other Jewish opponents of Zionism's colonial enterprise have described Israel as a "fascist" state. More appropriate terminology is lunatic asylum. Don't blame the inmates (Jewish citizens) for what's happening. They are products of Zionist brainwashing. Blame the wardens and management of the asylum (Israel's military and political leaders)

http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/03/07/...

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We must never abandon the the concept of the right of a free nation to exist.

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Thanks for the article. I tried so many times to explain how the country of Isreal was no stolen, it was always theirs, and now I hve proof. And I know God will never let anything happen to her.

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Sorry. It wasn't "always" theirs. It's just theirs now.

http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html

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Happy Birthday, Israel, you symbolic canary in the mine shaft. May you thrive and survive the poisonous fumes that is Islam. IF you survive as a non-Islamic entity, it will give hope to the free world.

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Islam isn't poisonous fumes. Some followers of any religion can stray. I think the majority of Muslims, Jews, Christian, Buddhists, Hindus try to live moral lives. Most people are good.

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Thank you, Walden, for pointing out this global truth.

Best of luck convincing Mutainia of that, though. She's a hatemonger of the worst kind.

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Only a hatemonger of a religion that turns good, moral, spiritually minded people into...MONsters.

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As I said. A hatemonger, pure and simple.

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If that makes me a "hatemonger", Mr. "I'm not a Muslim", well, so be it. But, Muslims have nothing to fear from me. IF they could read my heart and mind, they'd know I don't hate them AT all. Besides, it's by the "Grace of God" go I. If God so willed, I could be the confused guy wondering if strapping on bombs to kill non-Muslims will keep me from having my skin burned off and replaced, daily, throughout eternity, right now. I could be the one conflicted with, "No compulsion in religion!?!? But, but, WHAT about Quran 9:1-5, 29 through 30!?!?! OH how I could just blow myself up and END this madness for the MOST Compassionate, MOST Merciful, yet, says He/They wills off the right path, ALLAH, to sort out FOR me! AAAAAAUGH!!!"

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So, Dionys, if my feeling sorry for Muslims, (those who come upon "no compulsion in religion" hitting up against those Quranic scriptures that are believed to have abrogated "no compulsion in religion"), and, that makes me a hatemonger for feeling sorry for them, then, hey, CALL me a hatemonger.

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"I think the majority of Muslims, Jews, Christian, Buddhists, Hindus try to live moral lives. Most people are good."

Islam is infected with a very real and wide spread poison of a type of jihad that condones mass-murder of anyone, including other Muslims, for the purpose of enforcing a certain brand of the religion. It is alone among the major religions in having that barbaric tenet.

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You obviously have never worked with any Muslims or have any Muslims as friends. You should call a Mosque near your home and ask to visit. In my experience they are very welcoming and it will go a far ways to clearing up any misunderstanding that you have.

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I don't believe I misunderstand the idea of radical jihad. It is widely preached, widely practiced and widely reported. Whether I work with Muslims or have Muslim friends is no matter. And I say again, "Islam is infected with a very real and wide spread poison of a type of jihad that condones mass-murder of anyone, including other Muslims, for the purpose of enforcing a certain brand of the religion. It is alone among the major religions in having that barbaric tenet."

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My point is that there are probably practicing Muslims where you work or living in your town. Most Muslims, like most other people, lead quiet, non-descript lives of silent struggle. In my experience mosques love to have non-Muslims visit. Just give them a call and schedule some time to visit with your kids. You have more in common with 99% of the Muslims then you even know.

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I'm thinking it's either they don't know their Quran very well (well, the English ones I'm familiar with), or, there is a strong thread of doubt keeping them from ending up like the 45 British Islamic medical doctors who tried to set off bombs at two Scottish airports a year ago.

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Well said, TonyByron. No religion in the world would do that except the Muslim. I don't care what your religious is but killing another race or religious is f*-up.

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"I don't believe I misunderstand the idea of radical jihad. It is widely preached, widely practiced and widely reported. "

Widely reported, certainly. In a world wide survey, however, radical Muslims represented less than 7% of the population and justified their stance with ideology rather than theology or Qur'anic quotes. 7% is probably far less than the number of evanglical Christians calling for the destruction of Arabs in general or "those Muslims" more specifically.

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Hey Dio - 7% of 1.2 BILLION = 84 MILLION people.... That is an awfully large amount of nutters, wouldn't you agree ??

Or would you care to query my maths ??

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Muslims I've met were great, loving, caring people. I have no quams with them. It's the religion that, if these good caring, loving people study, can possibly end up coming upon NON-Muslim alienating Islamic scriptures that MIGHT make these nice Muslims to start thinking they are going to "be replaced" or, have their skin "burned off and replaced, daily", throughout eternity, inSPITE of having five times a day of BUTT in the air IF they don't "fight in the cause of Allah" (like the 45 British Islamic medical doctors ended up believing to the point of trying to destroy two Scottish airports...MEDICAL doctors).

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Like Christianity wasn't at a time. Everything that you accuse Muslims of doing you people have done and in some instances still do. You lot did your forced conversions to. Its just that some of you developed common sense and let secularism creep in to tame your more insane co-religionists. That is starting to happen with Islam. You f'n Christians make me sick with your holier than thou bull$hit

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I understand your anger and frustration. And I sympathize with your feelings.

However, you're not going to help your cause by losing your temper and calling others names. It won't help, it will just cause more anger and more fear. We need less of those and more peace and understanding.

Did not the Prophet (PBUH) say:

"Humility and courtesy are acts of piety."

As did Jesus say:

"Do for others what you want them to do for you: this is the meaning of the Law of Moses and of the teachings of the prophets."

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A salaam alaikum.

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Indeed. Shalom.

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Abu: "Its just that some of you developed common sense and let secularism creep in to tame your more insane co-religionists."

Maybe the "common sense" concept will spread to the jihadist preachers.

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Dude,you sound like a terrorist. Let it go. You don't need to fight over religious. We're not asking you to believe in Christian. Just don't try to kill us. That's why we have Lockheed and Raytheon. To protect ourself from the monster like you.

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