Did Israel Drive Out the Arabs 60 Years Ago? »
Posted by: SonOfTheMask 3 months, 3 weeks ago163 Comments Report this Story
Israel is about to celebrate its 60th birthday, but alone among the nations of the world, its legitimacy and right to exist continue to be considered matters of debate.
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SonOfTheMask3 months, 3 weeks ago
FTA: "So even now, even after triumphing over so much adversity in its all too eventful first 60 years, Israel is not considered a normal country. The campaign of delegitimization launched by its enemies has succeeded to a tremendous degree in persuading ordinary people that Israel was conceived in sin. That sin was the dispossession of the Palestinians, the rightful inhabitants of the land now called Israel. Second only to the claim that Iran seeks nuclear power for peaceful purposes, this is the most sinister lie in circulation."
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AbuAmirah3 months, 3 weeks ago
Lie my ass. From the beginning, the zionist passed the cannard that the land was uninhibited. What was the slogan, " A people for the land that has no people" The dispossesing of the Palestinian people was a well thought out plan from the beginning. Groups like the Stern Gang and Irgrun used terrorist tactics to drive people away from their lands. I have met people that still have keys and deeds to their property that the European Jews stole from them. As far as Iran and nukes are concerned, how are you so f'n sure that they're trying to develop nukes? The late Ayatollah Khomenei thought they were evil and he said the Islamic republic would never aquire them. What the Iranians are doing is they're right. At least they are signatories to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, unlike the zionist entity
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Goppy3 months, 3 weeks ago
Comment meant to address Abumirahs post:
Abu, I don't know anybody that says Palestine was uninhabited.
What is known is that it was not a nation with a formalized government, right?
Liek it or not, poeple around the world who have been unable or unwilling to gather together under a Constitution and develop a government are 'fair game' to those who are better organized and have a clearer vision.
Indeed, did not the Palestinians reject the Peel Commision Partition plan which would have provided the framework for a Palestinian state?
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mr2043 months, 3 weeks ago
Abu
First of all "uninhibited" is when you drink too much and you lose your "inhibitions".
Israel went to war (after being attacked) with it's Arab neighbors, more than once. Guess who won every time.
The winner of a war gets to decide the conditions of surrender for the loser, and has control over whatever was gained. As a result of Japan and Germany (the vanquished) agreeing to the conditions of surrender dictated by the U.S. and it's allies (the victors) at the close of WWII, both countries went on to rejoin the international community and became two major economic world powers.
When was the last time Mexico sent suicide bombers over the Rio Grande to get back Texas? Never, because they accepted their loss gracefully. The "Palestinians" don't want to move on, accept their loss, join the rest of the world and improve the lives of their people for one simple reason. Killing Jews is more important to them than their own children.
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Wolfie20073 months, 3 weeks ago
FTA
"The Jews fled Arab nations because of persecution. Why did the Arabs flee the new Jewish state? (Note, many remained and became citizens of Israel.) Writing in the most recent issue of Commentary, Efraim Karsh reviews some of the new evidence that has come to light about the events of 1948. Not only did the Jews not force the Arabs out of their homes, they made many vain efforts to persuade them to stay put. The 6,000 Arabs of Tiberias, in a typical example, were forced to leave by their own leaders, over strenuous objections from Jewish leaders."
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hyperbola3 months, 3 weeks ago
The lead article is just more zionist propaganda craappp that honest isrealis (like this one) don't even believe, but which can be fed to ignorant americans by israel-first traitors.
Oren Ben-Dor: Who are the real terrorists in the Middle East?
.. What exactly is being defended by the violence in Gaza and Lebanon? Is it the citizens of Israel or the nature of the Israeli state? I suggest the latter. Israel's statehood is based on an unjust ideology which causes indignity and suffering for those who are classified as non-Jewish by either a religious or ethnic test. To hide this primordial immorality, Israel fosters an image of victimhood. Provoking violence, consciously or unconsciously, against which one must defend oneself is a key feature of the victim-mentality. By perpetuating such a tragic cycle, Israel is a terrorist state like no other.
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hyperbola3 months, 3 weeks ago
Many who wish to hide the immorality of the Israeli state do so by restricting attention to the horrors of the post-1967 occupation and talking about a two-state solution, since endorsing a Palestinian state implicitly endorses the ideology behind a Jewish one.
The very creation of Israel required an act of terror. In 1948, most of the non-Jewish indigenous people were ethnically cleansed from the part of Palestine which became Israel. This action was carefully planned. Without it, no state with a Jewish majority and character would have been possible. Since 1948, the "Israeli Arabs", those Palestinians who avoided expulsion, have suffered continuous discrimination. Indeed, many have been internally displaced, ostensibly for "security reasons", but really to acquire their lands for Jews.
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AbuAmirah3 months, 3 weeks ago
Its f_cked up that my tax dollars are used to do it. Especially when those rat bastards spy on us.
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hyperbola3 months, 3 weeks ago
Isreal is no firend or ally of america. They are the biggest albatross around our neck and cost us a fortune in both lives and money to continue their crimes against humanity.
Don't Blame The Inmates Of The Israeli Lunatic Asylum
Do No Evil รข;; Israeli and other Jewish opponents of Zionism's colonial enterprise have described Israel as a "fascist" state. More appropriate terminology is lunatic asylum. Don't blame the inmates (Jewish citizens) for what's happening. They are products of Zionist brainwashing. Blame the wardens and management of the asylum (Israel's military and political leaders)
http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/03/07/...
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abntv3 months, 3 weeks ago
We must never abandon the the concept of the right of a free nation to exist.
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Dionys3 months, 3 weeks ago
Sorry. It wasn't "always" theirs. It's just theirs now.
http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html
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Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago
Happy Birthday, Israel, you symbolic canary in the mine shaft. May you thrive and survive the poisonous fumes that is Islam. IF you survive as a non-Islamic entity, it will give hope to the free world.
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walden33 months, 3 weeks ago
Islam isn't poisonous fumes. Some followers of any religion can stray. I think the majority of Muslims, Jews, Christian, Buddhists, Hindus try to live moral lives. Most people are good.
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TonyByron3 months, 3 weeks ago
"I think the majority of Muslims, Jews, Christian, Buddhists, Hindus try to live moral lives. Most people are good."
Islam is infected with a very real and wide spread poison of a type of jihad that condones mass-murder of anyone, including other Muslims, for the purpose of enforcing a certain brand of the religion. It is alone among the major religions in having that barbaric tenet.
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Mutainia3 months, 3 weeks ago
Most Muslims are good and moral people also. Unfortunately, they are following a book, the Quran, that can make them not only appear as immoral, but, downright evil, insane, and, worst of all, un-trustworthy, thanks to the Quran allowing them to lie (read 3:28 and 16:106 OR, type into your web browser "al taqqiya". YouTube has "invstigateislam" and "CloningIsFun", which do an even better job of exposing this super creep factor inside Islam).
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engineer3 months, 3 weeks ago
Alan Dershowitz's Book "The Case for Israel" should be read by everyone. Thanks for the article.
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Redneck3 months, 3 weeks ago
Carter is a JOKE! as is the concept of his book. He should present the concept of Jordan giving land to become a homeland to those who are the PLO and those groups clammering for Israel to be no more so they can possess the land. THAT would be a novel idea.
The reasons they want the land now is becaus Israel has caused it to blossom and produce much of the food stuff sold in the Middle East to all bordering lands of Israel. They think they can merely take it over and have the same success. Will not happen.
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vor3 months, 3 weeks ago
We need to be concerned first and foremost with the interests of the United States of America. All of this fawning over Israel has gotten us nothing but trouble. They are the most secretive state in the world. Even our intelligence agencies do not know their specific nuclear capabilities.
Mona Charen has always been out of touch with reality and this article continues to prove that. To treat Israel as a priviledged child does them no good. Acknowledge that they have repeatedly ignored UN resolutions. Acknowledge that they have treated the Palestinians terribly. Acknowledge the truth. Do not let them slide because the are the "Chosen People". Find me any historical proof of the Exodus and then we will give that consideration.
The Holocaust was a horrible event but so have been all of the genocides of other peoples that have occured on this Earth. We should not be creating our foreign policy based on the interests of another nation.
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DropkickaLib3 months, 3 weeks ago
Ahmadinejad says that your paycheck is ready but they need you to update your address with the Revolutionary Guard.
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vor3 months, 3 weeks ago
Your reality check is lost in the mail!
If we are never going to have a fair discussion on Israel there will never be peace in the Middle East. The interests of Israel carry far too much weight in regards to our foreign policy. Someday this will become obvious to all of the American people.
"Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said Tuesday
As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Albert Einstein
I'll take his stance on this one...
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walden33 months, 3 weeks ago
I don't think that anyone is saying we have to treat Israel any more favorably than any other country. You are the only one who brought up "Chosen People."
How about human rights in Saudi Arabia, China, Somalia?
Do you believe in the right of Israel to exist?
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Bkumm3 months, 3 weeks ago
And yet we do, very much, treat Israel differently than any other nation.
Human rights deserve recognition everywhere. Personally, I don't think we should trade with China and we should certainly boycott the Olympics unless they do something about their human rights abuses. We don't have the right to intervene in their internal affairs (iffy, toughy), but we don't have to trade with them either.
No, Israel has no more right to exist than any other nation. Look at what you said:
"I don't think that anyone is saying we have to treat Israel any more favorably than any other country."
"Do you believe in the right of Israel to exist?"
Does Ireland have the right to exist? Did Iraq under Saddam Hussein? Let's take a real extreme, did NAZI Germany have the right to exist? I'm not comparing Israel to NAZI Germany, but if one nation has the "right to exist" than so do all nations.
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AbuAmirah3 months, 3 weeks ago
Kiss my ass walden. 1) Where is do you think America sends swarthy people to tortured when they're renditioned? Saudi Arabia. That goes to show you the hypocracy that is America. We bitch and moan about the House of Saud, but they're there when we need some black bag $hit done. As far as Somalia goes, its a failed state, with many different factions controlling various parts of it. China is a different story. As for America, until the late 60's, it didn't have such a good human rights record either.
Finally, I don't believe in the right of the zionist entity to exist, because the zionist didn't believe that Palestine had a right to exist
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