Do No Evil – Fifteen Philadelphia police officers have been taken off the street as authorities investigate a video showing three suspects being kicked and beaten by city police.
Racism and police brutality is alive and well. I always thought that the thin blue line between law enforcers and law breakers was extremely thin with cops skipping back n' forth over it at will.
Add how often does this happen without a news helicopter flying overhead.
Really. And good, decent officers get painted with the ugly stick as a result. It's lose/lose.
True. It's an impossible job in impossible situations. You'd have to be nuts, an adrenaline addict or a bully to want to do it.
Or maybe enjoy helping and protecting people. Maybe these cops don't like people shooting up the neighborhoods. Don't shoot up the place and you won't get your a$$ kicked!
Not really leading by example, is it?
Their behavior has not helped the image of police. Your comment seems to advocate a sense of guilty unless proven innocent.
When a police officer falls in the line of duty, it is a true tragedy. Fellow officers should respond to such tragedy with honor and pride, not resort to criminal behavior. It dishonors the fallen.
"Not really leading by example, is it?"
See where leading by example has got them up to now. No respect, losing the streets. Think it's time to try it the old way.
I'm not sure the Nazi Police State path has proven successful, but it is your right to have such an opinion. Isn't this what Saddam was doing in Iraq?
It certainly is not a conservative approach. The police, by this one episode, has become less effective and have created more problems. That is not an effective way to solve problems.
I never said anything about a Nazi police force, why go to extremes. When I was a kid you showed the police respect, if you didn't they would teach you and if your parents heard about it they would also remind you.
As you can see your way sure isn't working
Somehow, I don't get the impression that you were suggesting instruction and teaching in your comment, unless that means strike first and ask questions later.
Police also need to respect the citizens that pay their salaries. Yes, it is a difficult job, but they chose to serve and protect. I see nothing about protection when you are kicking someone as the lay on the ground.
If someone pulls a weapon on a police officer, I have no problem with an officer shooting them dead right there. I see no evidence that warrants this type of behavior.
I have stopped giving individual cops the benefit of the doubt. They wouldn't keep their badge if they weren't willing to engage in this sort of thing when ordered. Really, do you think this is an isolated case that happened to be caught on tape? Don't be naive about where America has gone.... torture is legal now.
....and the PR guy was saying "don't jump to premature conclusions" about the video..... lol
No, there's more to it. There's lots of ways to help and protect people. There's something else at play in one's pschye to make them want to be cops.
Come on man, I'm willing to cut cops slack. I understand you're chasing some guy, the adrenaline is going, you tackle him, you may need to subdue him with force to cuff him and bring him in. I got that. I'm willing to give a mulligan for the first few.
I saw the video. The force used went way beyond what was necessary or excusable. It was a beat down.
"Racism and police brutality is alive and well."
Racism has nothing to do with it. ONe of the accused was wanted for murdering a Philadelphia police officer, and all three were suspects. This story is extremely thin and inaccurate. It was 13 cops, not 15.
Here is a better story ...
http://wcbstv.com/local/al.sharpton.police.2.71...
"Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said he does not believe the confrontation was racially motivated, but instead thinks that tensions in the wake of the weekend slaying of a fellow officer played a part.
"The beating occurred at the same time as police were conducting an intense manhunt for a suspect in the slaying of Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski, 39, who was killed responding to a bank robbery Saturday. He was the second city officer killed on the job in seven months."
maybe the stress of dealing with people like this adds up
Blind Pony Tortured and Dragged to Death by ATV Riders
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=88903
and where is the video link in the story.......nothing links to it
This type of behavior is never acceptable but I can't even imagine the stress officers in Philadelphia are experiencing
Sgt. Liczbinski, a 12-year veteran and married father of 3, was killed last Saturday while pursuing 3 bank-robbery suspects.
The police have been under intense pressure to catch the remaining suspect in this murder
In the beating incident the 3 men have all been charged with attempted murder - they were seen by officers shooting at people at a known drug corner Philadelphia.
The suspects fled the scene in a car that was recognised and stopped.
Philadelphia Police Commissioner Ramsey said that since Officer Liczbinski was shot and killed last Saturday, Philadelphia police have been on edge, but expects them to maintain a high standard of conduct at all times.
As I said this behavior is never justified. I went to look at the crime statistics in Phila. I'm surprised anyone wants to be a cop there
You're absolutely correct, why would anyone want to be a cop there? Does the fact that someone wants to be a cop there make them mentally incapable of being a cop?
I don't know Walden
Part of what we saw in the video may also have to do with fatigue. My sister-in-law lives in PA. I just talked to her a short time ago. She mentioned the incident in Phila
According to reports she heard, the police in Phila have been working 16 hour shifts since the officer was murdered Saturday.
Many officers were assigned to investigate & help with that case. In order to cover the city, other officers were working very long shifts.
When you combine the stress they feel from the murder of a fellow officer and the fatigue, the results are never good
I also wonder about the demographics within the police force - young officers with little experience and older officers just trying to hang on until they can retire
Sometimes I think we expect them to be superhuman.
I wonder about the type of person attracted to forces in cities like Phila, Detroit etc. I live in a very small town with almost no crime
We have officers who have left lg city forces to work here at lower pay. The conditions they decribe in the large metropolitan areas are somthing we can't even imagine
Detroit Police are among the most corrupt in the nation - right up there with New Orleans. Hardly a year goes by there isn't some sort of FBI or other investigation/prosecution of corrupt Detroit cops. Just look at Detroit's mayor currently charged with a spate of federal corruption charges for getting rid of honest cops investigating him. Makes me wonder how Clinton got away with firing the entire US federal prosecutor corps back in '93. Fish rots from the head down.
Looks very bad, very, very bad. With so much video out in the public and on police cars, you'd think cops would think twice before resorting to brutality. There may be many excuses for their behavior but none are valid. When you step over the line by becoming a criminal while apprehending and arresting one...resign, you're not fit to be a police officer. I don't want anyone like these cops patroling my neighborhood. When you continually condone this type of behavior by police officers, you enable further brutality to occur in the future. As Deputy Barney Fife once said, "Nip it in the bud!"
I've been saying in the threads all along how some bad cops ruin it for the rest of the good cops. The police enlistment process has to be a little bit more better and stringent in filtering the good candidates from the bad ones.
You disagree ningyo? Try removing you're cranium from you're rectum so that you can clearly see what I'm talking about.
What really sucks is that out of tens of thousands of good cops, one bad cop can make all the other ones look bad. People tend to have bad feelings towards cops anyway and want to see them as bad people. The only time you ever really deal with them is when you are getting pulled over.
Then again I also find it odd that people get upset at the police officer for writing them a ticket. I have always driven fast. I have been given several big tickets for it too. Once I pulled over before a cop could catch up to me and when he stopped he said "Holy Sh*t, How effing fast were you going?" I smiled and said "Why 45 of course." Good times.
Much of the frustration felt by police officers (and their frustration was apparent during this incident) should be blamed on a court system which fails to do its part in keeping the bad guys off the streets and protect the people.
Certainly these actions cannot be justified, even by those who try to be understanding of the pressures under which our policemen labor, but when corrective measures are considered, it should be recognized that the entire system needs to be revamped, and that won't happen simply by suspending a few street cops.
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what case Raymond Burr?
His is just a mental case pc25.