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Whether Wright's suspicions are baseless, in the light of Tuskegee, the fact that he has them should be neither shocking nor terribly surprising.
2. Wright's views on Louis Farrakhan:
â;¦ how many other African-Americans or European-Americans do you know that can get one million people together on the mall? He is one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century. That's what I think about him.
I've said, as I said on Bill Moyers, when Louis Farrakhan speaks, it's like E.F. Hutton speaks, all black America listens. Whether they agree with him or not, they listen.
Now, I am not going to put down Louis Farrakhan anymore than Mandela would put down Fidel Castro. Do you remember that Ted Koppel show, where Ted wanted Mandela to put down Castro because Castro was our enemy? And he said, "You don't tell me who my enemies are. You don't tell me who my friends are."
Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains. He did not put me in slavery.
Suppose Wright made the observation: William F. Buckley was one the most important voices in America. Would anyone have said that he was praising Buckley? Or would they have merely recognized the obvious: that he was drawing attention to the extent of Buckley's influence?
Is Wright correct in saying that when Farrakhan speaks, black Americans â;; whether they agree with him or not â;; listen?
As someone who is not a black American, I don't know, but neither I imagine do most of those white pundits who repeated the claim that Wright had "praised" Farrakhan.
3. Terrorism and the US:
You cannot do terrorism on other people and expect it never to come back on you.
For seven years, public discourse in America has conspired to sustain the notion that the term "terrorism" has an unambiguous and objective meaning. Although in theory it is possible that we could all agree on what terrorism is, in practice it has become the prerogative of the US government to determine what are admissible and inadmissible applications of the term. "Terrorism" has become a proprietary brand and the US government holds the copyright.
On April 30, 2008, five Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched from a U.S. naval vessel off the Horn of Africa, aimed the town of Dusa Marreb in central Somalia. According to the Washington Post, the strike "leveled a house belonging to the reclusive leader, Aden Hashi Ayro, who was inside at the time with at least one of his top commanders, according to his followers." Aryo is accused of having ties to al Qaeda. A witness said he counted 16 bodies around the crater where the missile(s) had exploded.
On February 29, 2008, the US government granted itself legal authority to blow up Aryo and those in his vicinity by designating the group to which they belong, Al-Shabaab, as a terrorist organization.
Although the Pentagon cannot confirm the number or identities of all the people killed in the missile strike, anyone who would have the audacity to refer to a military action such as this, as an act of "terrorism" is sure to be denounced. Among respectable commentators, the act itself is just as sure to receive little if any comment. Somalia is a lawless state; America's role in contributing to that lawlessness is a subject supposedly of no interest or concern to the American people.
Fortunately zionist racists are becoming ever more irrelevant in america. Israelis will welcome their end in our country. Of course, we will also have to root out the zionists in the democratic party.
For Israel's Sake, Moderate American Jews Must Find Their Voice
Religion â;; Radical zionist political associations have embraced the most right-wing figures of American politics from Rick Santorum and Trent Lott to Tom DeLay and George Bush - all in the guise of being "pro-Israel." Enough. These extremists don't speak for me or the majority of American jews and they endanger Israel.
Hyp - your anti-Zionist rants are political, so rant on, but very often you cross-over into being an overt anti-Semitic.
Since you appear to admit to being Jewish , you must really have problems with being such, & if you are male perhaps a foreskin reconstruction would be in order.
Oh both political and moral Ace. You support crimes against humanity by religious sects?
Zionism versus Judaism
Religion â;; Zionists have managed to unforgivably drag judaism's name through the mud for more than 60 years. Zionism might be a racist, supremacist ideology - but Judaism is most definitely not. The more Jews who make this distinction, the better: both for security of their fellow Jews, as well as to end zionist crimes against Palestinians.
Religion â;; An Israeli professor dicusses the mechanisms of denial used in Israel, America and around the world to cover up zionist crimes against humanity.
Jewish Palestinian speaks out against 'apartheid state'
Religion â;; His duty, he says, is the same of all persons' worldwide--to mobilize against war crimes perpetrated by governments in citizens' own names. "Not in my name," Davis cries out--a closed hand gesticulating his affront. "Not in my name as an individual and citizen." He raises his voice as loud as he is able to shout. "Not in my name".
"Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains. He did not put me in slavery...."
You're right, he did not. However, if you know your history, you'd know that slaves were people of conquered tribes in Afirca, and originally enslaved by their own people, only later to be sold to the Europeans. The proverbial chains began in Africa long before the white man ever set foot there. However, if it makes you feel better, you can continue to credit white people with the invention of slavery.
Whether Wright's suspicions are baseless, in the light of Tuskegee, the fact that he has them should be neither shocking nor terribly surprising.
2. Wright's views on Louis Farrakhan:
â;¦ how many other African-Americans or European-Americans do you know that can get one million people together on the mall? He is one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century. That's what I think about him.
I've said, as I said on Bill Moyers, when Louis Farrakhan speaks, it's like E.F. Hutton speaks, all black America listens. Whether they agree with him or not, they listen.
Now, I am not going to put down Louis Farrakhan anymore than Mandela would put down Fidel Castro. Do you remember that Ted Koppel show, where Ted wanted Mandela to put down Castro because Castro was our enemy? And he said, "You don't tell me who my enemies are. You don't tell me who my friends are."
Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains. He did not put me in slavery.
Suppose Wright made the observation: William F. Buckley was one the most important voices in America. Would anyone have said that he was praising Buckley? Or would they have merely recognized the obvious: that he was drawing attention to the extent of Buckley's influence?
Is Wright correct in saying that when Farrakhan speaks, black Americans â;; whether they agree with him or not â;; listen?
As someone who is not a black American, I don't know, but neither I imagine do most of those white pundits who repeated the claim that Wright had "praised" Farrakhan.
3. Terrorism and the US:
You cannot do terrorism on other people and expect it never to come back on you.
For seven years, public discourse in America has conspired to sustain the notion that the term "terrorism" has an unambiguous and objective meaning. Although in theory it is possible that we could all agree on what terrorism is, in practice it has become the prerogative of the US government to determine what are admissible and inadmissible applications of the term. "Terrorism" has become a proprietary brand and the US government holds the copyright.
On April 30, 2008, five Tomahawk cruise missiles were launched from a U.S. naval vessel off the Horn of Africa, aimed the town of Dusa Marreb in central Somalia. According to the Washington Post, the strike "leveled a house belonging to the reclusive leader, Aden Hashi Ayro, who was inside at the time with at least one of his top commanders, according to his followers." Aryo is accused of having ties to al Qaeda. A witness said he counted 16 bodies around the crater where the missile(s) had exploded.
On February 29, 2008, the US government granted itself legal authority to blow up Aryo and those in his vicinity by designating the group to which they belong, Al-Shabaab, as a terrorist organization.
Although the Pentagon cannot confirm the number or identities of all the people killed in the missile strike, anyone who would have the audacity to refer to a military action such as this, as an act of "terrorism" is sure to be denounced. Among respectable commentators, the act itself is just as sure to receive little if any comment. Somalia is a lawless state; America's role in contributing to that lawlessness is a subject supposedly of no interest or concern to the American people.
http://warincontext.org/2008/05/02/campaign-08-...
Hyp - would you have a break-down if it was to disclosed that Wright is a closet Zionist?
Fortunately zionist racists are becoming ever more irrelevant in america. Israelis will welcome their end in our country. Of course, we will also have to root out the zionists in the democratic party.
For Israel's Sake, Moderate American Jews Must Find Their Voice
Religion â;; Radical zionist political associations have embraced the most right-wing figures of American politics from Rick Santorum and Trent Lott to Tom DeLay and George Bush - all in the guise of being "pro-Israel." Enough. These extremists don't speak for me or the majority of American jews and they endanger Israel.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/05/03/...
Hyp - your anti-Zionist rants are political, so rant on, but very often you cross-over into being an overt anti-Semitic.
Since you appear to admit to being Jewish , you must really have problems with being such, & if you are male perhaps a foreskin reconstruction would be in order.
HA!
"foreskin reconstruction would be in order"
LMAO
LOL Ducky your funnier than heck.
Oh both political and moral Ace. You support crimes against humanity by religious sects?
Zionism versus Judaism
Religion â;; Zionists have managed to unforgivably drag judaism's name through the mud for more than 60 years. Zionism might be a racist, supremacist ideology - but Judaism is most definitely not. The more Jews who make this distinction, the better: both for security of their fellow Jews, as well as to end zionist crimes against Palestinians.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/04/15/...
Mechanisms of Zionist Denial
Religion â;; An Israeli professor dicusses the mechanisms of denial used in Israel, America and around the world to cover up zionist crimes against humanity.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/05/01/...
Jewish Palestinian speaks out against 'apartheid state'
Religion â;; His duty, he says, is the same of all persons' worldwide--to mobilize against war crimes perpetrated by governments in citizens' own names. "Not in my name," Davis cries out--a closed hand gesticulating his affront. "Not in my name as an individual and citizen." He raises his voice as loud as he is able to shout. "Not in my name".
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/05/02/...
Good use of "al-taqqiya", O Jihadist of the Pen, hyperebola. I'm pretty sure the Jihadists and Libs actually believe you.
What about the liberal jihadists?
Oh, don't you KNOW it! :)
Like PETA?
And elf. And the American Criminal Latinos Union.
"Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains. He did not put me in slavery...."
You're right, he did not. However, if you know your history, you'd know that slaves were people of conquered tribes in Afirca, and originally enslaved by their own people, only later to be sold to the Europeans. The proverbial chains began in Africa long before the white man ever set foot there. However, if it makes you feel better, you can continue to credit white people with the invention of slavery.
What he also seems to forget is that the very tribe who sold almost every single slave to the west continued to own slaves until just a few years ago.