Land of the "Free": What do we tolerate in America today? »
Posted by: populist 2 months, 3 weeks ago79 CommentsReflectReport this Story
Torture, for one thing. Financial snooping, wiretapping, physical checkpoints, fingerprinting, and various other forms of ID tech-mania. And then there are the cameras - the ever present cameras. We are at the zenith of a shameful period in our brief history.
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populist
May 2, 2008, 12:57 p.m.Some would argue that it never really was - with slavery, women not being able to vote, etc, etc. But, that for a time, all moves were toward more freedom, not less.
These days, all government moves have been going the other way - less and freedom. And, I think there's still a lot more to come with these people...
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Mark Stevens
May 3, 2008, 4:12 a.m.What I see tolerated is a Mexican invasion to get back "occupied land". Mexico's president last week laughed, telling U.S. reporters that he had family living illegally in the U.S. He also wants California to abolish its borders and allow amenesty to all Mexicans.
We tolerate cops that willingly violate civil rights, commit perjury to cover their misconduct, and make efforts to frame people to silence them.
We tolerate politicians that don't do anything except get reelected.
We also tolerate politicians that encourage the illegals to vote.
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Mark Stevens
May 3, 2008, 4:27 a.m.Excerpt from 1984, It isn't that corner street camera, it is facts as the goverment sees them... we are there!!
Oceania's people are in three classes â;; (i) the Inner Party, (ii) the Outer Party, and (iii) the Proles. This government, the Party, controls them via the Ministry of Truth (Minitrue), where Winston Smith, the protagonist, works; he is a member of the Outer Party. His job in Minitrue is the continual rewriting and altering of history so that the government is always right and correct: destroying evidence, amending newspaper articles, deleting the existence of people identified as unpersons.
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joeblowe
May 2, 2008, 12:51 p.m.Apparently the majority of citizens don't object to these things mentioned in the article. It's obvious because only about 20% have the good sense to realize that voting for ANY of the three current "main" presidential candidates virtually GUARANTEES another 4 years of the same ol' same ol'. Neither the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party has ANY incentive to make significant changes. That might, after all, negatively affect their power base. And for the most part, the idiot citizens of this country go right on along with them and argue WHICH of those couple of candidates is really best, without EVER stopping to consider that NEITHER is going to make a significant difference - and trying to find a better alternative. And yes, the MSM is just as guilty, and mostly for the same reason: The Dems and Repubs spend a LOT more on advertising then anyone else. At least those 20% or so supporting Ron Paul have a clue, and it's a higher percentage than in most elections.
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populist
May 2, 2008, 12:55 p.m.Right - when these politicians get millions of votes, they don't take it as a "protest" to another candidate - they see it as an endorsement of everything that they've proposed.
Personally, I can't vote for any candidate that doesn't vow to end the unconstitutional spying, end the wars, close down our foreign military empire, etc, etc, etc.
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Lurch
May 2, 2008, 9:52 p.m.> Neither the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party has ANY incentive to make significant changes.
Which is why both the right-wing establishment and left-wing establishment as well as the right-wing media attack Obama on BS made-up rants while giving McCain and Bush passes on even worse troubles like their sucking up to Rev Hagee and the Moonie Messiah.
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mntnman444
May 2, 2008, 1:46 p.m.Another example of the constitution going down the drain...here is a case of a violation of the 4th causing a violation of the 2nd...
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