Do No Evil – A pregnant teller shot in a bank robbery has lost the twins she was carrying, and police continued to search for the gunman Friday.
This is so sad! Prayers for her and her family!
As long as I live, I will never understand how a person could shot another person in a non-self-defense action!
My sister was a bank teller for several years and she often mentioned the risk she was taking for $7.00 an hour!
Thanks not2needy, Mrs. Shuffield needs our prayers!
By the way, I was a teller at a bank for four years and never broke $10. It's really, really hard for me to take seriously people that tell me that it's okay for the rich not to be taxed heavily when the president of the bank I worked for made $800,000 a year, plus benefits (car, cheap mortgage rate on his first AND second homes, golf course membership, healthcare, dental, well, you get the picture) and I made $10 an hour and took all the risks.
And before somebody pops off, I graduated with honors with an AAS in marketing and management and with a 3.76 GPA bachelors in History. So, yes, I was educated, experienced and motivated. Didn't matter a bit.
I know it's off topic, but the president of that bank where this teller lost her sweet babies isn't taking ANY risk and he's raking in who knows how much while this woman takes her life into her hands every day.
Who should make more?
" So, yes, I was educated, experienced and motivated. Didn't matter a bit."
I can't believe you had nearly as much experience or education as the guy who was the president... seeing as you imply you weren't too long out of school. Are you actually suggesting that you should've been the president of the bank?
Not at all. I'm suggesting that his MBA, JD and 25 years of experience (not just in banking) don't mean that he is worth 38.5 times more an hour than I was. That's just his salary, that doesn't include the cost of the perks.
I actually finished school while I was working there and my experience wasn't exactly shabby. I had been a project coordinator, manufacturing supervisor and a leading Petty Officer in the Navy. So, is the bank president worth 38.5 times more than me? I don't think so. Does he contribute 38.5 times more to the bottom line? I don't think so. Does he spend 38.5 times more than I do, thus helping the economy 38.5 times more? Not a chance.
That's all I'm saying. As a matter of relative worth, I don't believe that he contributed 38.5 times more.
And if the shooting led to the children's death, now the bastard is a murderer.
Pray or meditate or whatever you do for this family, may they find peace if not justice.
This man will not be seen as murderer in the eyes of the law. There's a silly law that says this man can only be charged with manslaughter since the twins were only 5 months along. They would have had to be a minimum of 7 months along for murder charges to be filed. I doubt that peace or justice is on their horizon.
The gunman is now guilty of murder.
Now that the twins have died, the gunman would be eligible for feticide or other charges, Wyser said without specifying. He said that in order for manslaughter charges to be filed in Indiana, Shuffield would have had to have been at least seven months pregnant.
I have a question. Why can this person be charged with murder when a doctor can do a partial birth abortion and not be charged? I'm excluding the issue of her choice. On one side the law says the fetus lives. On the other- not? It can't be both.
Simple; it is murder, but present it to a lawyer and he will be able to spin white into black in the courts
Remember O J, not guilty in one court; guilty in another..justice sucks when you are the victim.
Not supporting OJ, but it I wasn't surprised that he got off. You see the American justice system wasn't meant for rich people, it was designed for poor people. The court system can't handle people who can spend as much money to keep themselves out of jail as the system spends to put them in jail. With a civil case, there isn't the same level of proving guilt beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt like a criminal case
Yes it can. It's a matter of intent. If the mother intends to keep the babies and bring them to term, killing them is murder. If she does not, then it isn't.
Further, this woman was in the second trimester, most states have laws that limit abortions in that instance.
God has got to be shaking his head on that definition of life.
If I order the shrimp, because I don't want the steak. Does that mean it was never a steak?
We are gonna get a good talkin' to at the Pearly Gates.
I didn't say it was a definition of life. Pay attention. I said that it was a matter of intent.
Since there aren't any Pearly Gates, I'm not terribly concerned.
Bkumm, I was not challenging your thoughts. Just trying to add perspective. Pearly Gates was the metaphor of Judgement Day. I am an agnostic but some things are not consistant and that was my analogy. Geesh..Chill...Peace to all!
Also I don't believe God actually shakes his head...oh nevermind.....
I think you guys are putting me on...here is my thought with no analogies or reference to God.
It is illogical to define life based on a 'want' yardstick. It is life or it isn't, your desires have nothing to do with it. I believe it is life, regardless of what the desires or wants of the mother are. We'll leave the father out of this for now. I am not making an anti-abortion argument here(though a third of a billion dollars of taxpayers money I have a problem with). I understand the courts and lawyers have their own minced definitions. But because I want it doesn't make it life...nor because I don't doesn't make it a procedure. Am I making sense now?
No, you're not. I was not, am not and have not been talking about a definition for life. I'm talking about intent.
Let me try to be clearer and not be such a tool. I apologize.
I agree that it is illogical to define life on a personal desire yardstick. However, that is not what I did. If you will read carefully, I did not define life in any way. What I said was that intent defines the act. If a person shoots a pregnant woman in the abdomen there is intent to do harm to either the mother or the fetus, in that case it would be murder. If the intent is to legally dispose of an unwanted pregnancy, then it is not.
It's a matter of intent and the legality of what is being done.
Yes it can. It's a matter of intent. If the mother intends to keep the babies and bring them to term, killing them is murder. If she does not, then it isn't.
Oh that makes sense, if the 'cell mass is in your body' you can do with it as you please,,, as long as a Dr takes care of it,,,, what if a Mom falls down stairs to take care of it,,,, is that murder or just a Choice she made?
I'm confused
This is so weird in that banks are robbed every day and no-one gets shot...do you think that maybe her boyfried or husband had this whole thing set up? That's the first thought the came to mind when I saw this on TV. I'm sure we will find out when they catch these guys. Another thing, why wasn't anyone else shot?
When they catch this human S.H.I.T.B.A.G. on two legs, he should be hung on television at midday. I will volunteer
to make the noose and pull the trap. Think I'm kidding? Dont
even kid yourself. I would sleep like a baby that same night.
I have no feelings of mercy for people that do not value human
life and target the people that cannot defend themselves.
Before I pulled the trap door I would shoot him in abdomen and let him feel what she felt for a good five minutes. Time for America to start packing guns again, get your's today!
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Katherin Shuffield, who was five months pregnant, was critically wounded when a masked gunman shot her in the abdomen Tuesday morning at a Huntington Bank branch.
Authorities and the family had said the bullets had not hit the twins. Complications set in, however, and one twin was born dead and the other died after birth, said Marion County's chief deputy coroner, Alfarena Ballew.
This is so tragic, i can't imagine her pain.