Truths and Myths About Weather in Hollywood Blockbusters »
Posted By zaph22 5 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsAl Gore's "traveling global warming show," the award-winning documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," includes a long flyover shot of majestic Antarctic ice shelves. But this shot was first seen in the 2004 blockbuster "The Day After Tomorrow." Sculpted from Styrofoam and later scanned into a computer, the ice shelf "
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zaph225 months, 3 weeks ago
I have no idea, I can't get anyone at Propeller to explain it to me. I only know that I can't post it, can't put it in a comment, and when I tried sending it to someone in a private message the url was taken out and replaced with the words "banned url"
But if you would like to read the story, AC found the same story at a different url and sent it to me so I could post the story, it's at this link...
http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/04/22/...
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catstevensComment removed: User banned.3 Replies
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libsRfunny5 months, 3 weeks ago
well, the problem there is, it'd show the Earth was MUCH WARMER than it is today.
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Silverghost5 months, 3 weeks ago
LOL, Abntv. Just as good flim-flam though. You can't clone dinosaurs from amber preserved dead tissue. Looks great on screen though!
The computer model has to be an exact representation, possibly, maybe, aw shucks! Get my big footprint & clone it. -Rev. S
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Wolfie20075 months, 3 weeks ago
FTA
"Karen Goulekas, the special effects supervisor for "The Day After Tomorrow" said the shot is a digital image. She was glad Al Gore used it in the documentary since "It is one hell of a shot." Both movies use the shot to convincingly portray global warming, but it is left to the audience to decide if this created image can both entertain and educate us about our changing planet."
These glow bull whiners will do anything to make you believe their religion. Even applaud putting make believe in a documentary and they don't even see anything wrong with it.
True believers, zealots, I'd say.
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Bkumm5 months, 3 weeks ago
I'll vote on this story to help get it the attention it deserves, but I guarentee you that movies made that are against this point of view use shots that are also suspect.
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zaph225 months, 3 weeks ago
"but I guarentee you that movies made that are against this point of view use shots that are also suspect."
I don't know if that is true or not, but either way, it doesn't excuse Gore for doing it, the "they did it too" way of looking at it doesn't make what Gore did any more honest, as many of us heard from our parents "Just because all your friends jumped off a bridge...."
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Silverghost5 months, 3 weeks ago
BK: There are dishonest people with opposing ideas, but Al Gore? This truth is downright inconvenient! LOL
Certainly convenient & good to have a hay day! HAGD!
Nobody on all the threads has aptly answered why Mars & other planets are heating up at this time. No CO2 emissions there.
The amount of CO2 in our atmosphere is minuscule compared to the overall mass of gases. -Rev. S
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IAmMine5 months, 3 weeks ago
"Nobody on all the threads has aptly answered why Mars & other planets are heating up at this time. No CO2 emissions there. "
Dude, this is so old. Try using google rather than keep repeating asinine propaganda copied and pasted right out of the right wing extremist blog sites.
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Silverghost5 months, 3 weeks ago
They're cryin, cryin, cryhihiin over CO2! BooHoo! LOL -Rev. S
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CRYMTYPHON5 months, 3 weeks ago
No, no we are totaly disillusioned.
He used a CGI clip from a movie, as a background while talking about the Arctic!
The fiendish liar! The fraud! True, the rest of the movie stands as a lighthouse of truth bravely shining against the fog of conservative twaddle, but that is not good enough.
As you know, we leftist have rather, ah, 'higher' standards than the you of the right.
Adieu, Mr. Gore.
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Silverghost5 months, 3 weeks ago
Just think what that does to the landfill, Ani. How inconvenient is that truth? LOL -Rev. S
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Dicax_Maximus5 months, 3 weeks ago
ROTFLMAO !!!!
Styrofoam ????? Well, it does have one of the same properties as another well known substance..... Bull**** !!!
They both float !!
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crespi5 months, 3 weeks ago
What's wrong with you Christians?
Did your momma whack in you in the head with a bible so many times you became STUPID?
THE ICE CAPS ARE MELTING!
And YOU freaks are still blocking solutions at every turn.
There is a good blog about how when the global-warming induced food shortages hit people should eat FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS. They don't smoke, or have many STD's AND they are in large part to BLAME FOR THIS ECOLOGICAL DISASTER since it was uncovered how they put a Christian spy in NASA to block global warming info coming to and from scientists, and repeatedly, just for ONE!
We KNOW why you are doing this.
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crespi5 months, 3 weeks ago
To fulfill your evil "end of the world prophecy" and create the "tribulations" you so desperately hope for. Instead of facing reality and helping to fix our problems you have chosen to subvert, lie, deny science, and mostly DENY all responsibility and pray you will be "taken away" when your destructive handywork comes to fruition. (You WON'T be. You can watch YOUR children starve, too. Only you will probably ENJOY it since it "proves prophecy.")
I have Christian pamphlets from 1982(!) screaming how their IS NO TEMPERATURE RISE. LIES. LIES. LIES. And FOR WHAT?
To follow the will of SATAN and destroy us all to feed your colossal egos?
Stop sabotaging the world you SATANIST F*cks!!!
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newbie04205 months, 3 weeks ago
Speaking of stupid....
"An ice age is a period of long-term reduction in the temperature of the Earth's surface and atmosphere, resulting in an expansion of continental ice sheets, polar ice sheets and alpine glaciers. Glaciologically, ice age is often used to mean a period of ice sheets in the northern and southern hemispheres; by this definition we are still in an ice age (because the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets still exist."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age
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CRYMTYPHON5 months, 3 weeks ago
Newbie: you dropped the next sentence. Here it is:
"More colloquially, when speaking of the last few million years, ice age is used to refer to colder periods with extensive ice sheets over the North American and Eurasian continents: in this sense, the most recent ice age ended about 11,000 years ago."
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newbie04205 months, 3 weeks ago
You mean tha caps that have been melting and growing back for the last 40 million years:
"The present ice age began 40 million years ago with the growth of an ice sheet in Antarctica. It intensified during the late Pliocene, around 3 million years ago, with the spread of ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere, and has continued in the Pleistocene. Since then, the world has seen cycles of glaciation with ice sheets advancing and retreating on 40,000- and 100,000-year time scales. The most recent glacial period ended about ten thousand years ago."
Facts usually do much better then mindless rants when you want to win people over....
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simonsez5 months, 3 weeks ago
Thanks Zaph for posting this story. It was also featured on 20/20 last Friday.
I also have a video of the glacier continually breaking off in South America, an activity that has been going on for decades. It's a tourist attraction.
I believe the global warming fiasco is beginning to unravel, but it may take 4 or 5 years of average weather to kill it.
In the meantime, necessary or not, our autos will become more fuel efficient because of the cost of fuel.
That is the way change is supposed to happen ... not by government intervention.
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IAmMine5 months, 3 weeks ago
Wow, a 5 second clip in a doc thats over an hour and a half. Next thing you'll know someone will notice the part where the greenhouse gases are trying to escape is a cartoon....
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newbie04205 months, 3 weeks ago
A little more from:
http://www.sitewave.net/pproject/s33p36.htm
During the current period of recovery from the Little Ice Age, the U.S. climate has improved somewhat, with more rainfall, fewer tornados, and no increase in hurricane activity, as illustrated in Figures 7 to 10. Sea level has trended upward for the past 150 years at a rate of 7 inches per century, with 3 intermediate uptrends and 2 periods of no increase as shown in Figure 11. These features are confirmed by the glacier record as shown in Figure 12. If this trend continues as did that prior to the Medieval Climate Optimum, sea level would be expected to rise about 1 foot during the next 200 years.
As shown in Figures 2, 11, and 12, the trends in glacier shortening and sea level rise began a century before the 60-year 6-fold increase in hydrocarbon use, and have not changed during that increase. Hydrocarbon use could not have caused these trends.
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IAmMine5 months, 3 weeks ago
and a little more on the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine:
The Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (OISM) describes itself as "a small research institute" that studies "biochemistry, diagnostic medicine, nutrition, preventive medicine and the molecular biology of aging." It is headed by Arthur B. Robinson, an eccentric scientist who has a long history of controversial entanglements with figures on the fringe of accepted research. OISM also markets a home-schooling kit for "parents concerned about socialism in the public schools" and publishes books on how to survive nuclear war."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oreg...
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=480
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IAmMine5 months, 3 weeks ago
"A large number of US scientists (to our direct knowledge: engineers, biologists, computer scientists and geologists) received a package in the mail this week. The package consists of a colour preprint of a 'new' article by Robinson, Robinson and Soon and an exhortation to sign a petition demanding that the US not sign the Kyoto Protocol. If you get a feeling of deja vu, it is because this comes from our old friends, the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine and is an attempt to re-invigorate the highly criticised 1999 "Oregon Petition".
The article itself is just an update of the original article, minus an author (Baliunas), with a switch of Robinson children (Zachary's out, Noah is in), but with a large number of similar errors and language. As in previous case, this paper too, is not peer reviewed. "
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quackpot5 months, 3 weeks ago
RE figures 2,11, and 12: when the shortening began does NOT negate the RAPID CURRENT rate of the shortening process. You might want to look at last week's issue of the scientific journal Nature.
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Charlson5 months, 3 weeks ago
The Arctic Ice Cap has stunk 20% since 1979 and at a rate of 9% a decade, there will be no Arctic Ice Cap by the turn of the century. But you global warming debunkers don't care, you won't be around to see it. You find trite crap to argue against global warming as if it contradicts what most of the reputable scientists in the world confirms.
And will this have detrimintal effects to our planet? For those who really are interested here's a link with some answers: http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/qthinice.asp
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newbie04205 months, 3 weeks ago
Do you know why Greenland got it's name?
Do you know they are finding man made mines and caves as the ice begins to melt there?
Maybe things are returning to a point they've already been?
Too much ice on Earth is a bad thing as it reflects solar radiation which leads to a further cooling of the planet.
Guess Al Gore didn't tell you that....
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IAmMine5 months, 3 weeks ago
Wow, you mean the climate has changed before????
"The Greenland ice sheet is at least 400,000 to 800,000 years old. Certainly it was alive and well when the island was named around 1000 years ago. So where did the Green in Greenland come from? According to Wikipedia, legend has it was good marketing on the part of Erik the Red who figured it would attract more settlers (if he was more vain, it may have been called Redland). Or perhaps its a derivation of Engronelant or Gruntland. The main point is while the ice sheet has always been there, Greenland probably was somewhat warmer during the Medieval Period and part of Greenland was green. So once again, I refer you to the Climate's changed before argument. "
http://www.skepticalscience.com/greenland-used-...
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