Sect mothers appeal to Texas governor »
Posted by: not2needy 4 months, 1 week agoThe mothers of children removed from a polygamous sect's ranch in West Texas after an abuse allegation are appealing to Gov. Rick Perry for help, saying some of their children have become sick and even required hospitalization.
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
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In the letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press, the mothers from the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints also say children are "horrified" by physical examinations they have undergone while in state custody.
If these poor children had not been brainwashed, and traumatized by their own mothers and fathers, a simple examination by a Dr wouldn't be such a horrifying experience for them. IMO!
Where were these protective mothers when their daughters were married off to old men who beat and sexually abused them? What could be worse than that?
I guess it's what you get used to, but the men need to be kept as far away from these girls and children as possible.
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Dionys4 months, 1 week ago
I agree with you regarding the brainwashing and trauma caused and perpetrated upon these young women and children.
However, there's something to be said for the fact that they may indeed be traumatized by the physical examinations they've had to go through coming from a background where they are in no way familiar with the outside world. If you came from a culture (or sect or whatever) where these things were unheard of and never discussed, these kinds of examinations might be terrifying, horrifying, traumatizing, et cetera.
That said, I believe that some of them may be neccessary. It's a very difficult situation to balance justice and respect for another's cultural differences or religious traditions.
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cushi4 months, 1 week ago
I'm wondering if they are treating the children for their anxieties with a mild tranquilizer or something. It seems to me that until they've had a little time to adjust emotionally and psychologically to this drastic change in their young lives, it would be advisable to temporarily administer a calming agent.
Of course, in the case of the mothers to be, effects on their unborn must be considered! Such a sad, sad situation for them all!
The pedophiles who have done this to these innocent ones deserve to go to prison for the rest of their miserable lives for the irreparable damage they have done to so many!
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DropkickaLib4 months, 1 week ago
No one has been convicted yet. In any case, knowing the effect of foster care and children's homes, the kids would be better off if they could be returned to a parent safely and as soon as possible. That is contingent on being unable to prove any signs of abuse.
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DropkickaLib4 months, 1 week ago
I'm afraid that the Nazi government has seized children only to condemn them to a life of institutions and foster homes. The authorities can't even identify the illeged "victim" who called in a complaint. Did they actually receive a call? I don't condone polygomy but what is the difference between underaged Mormon girls getting pregnant and massive numbers of inner city girls who do the same thing with multiple men?
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cowboygrandpa4 months, 1 week ago
Spadecaller:
Not in the name of God.
By the evil in man who seeks to sanctify his actions by invoking the name of God.
No where does God say to conduct one's self in the manner these animals do.
One cannot take certain passages from the Bible and insert them as one pleases as these do.
Woe unto the man or woman who knowingly commit others to a life of bondage and slavery.
We are the children of the almighty and are owned by him.
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cushi4 months, 1 week ago
I doubt that it would do any good. They would just find other, unnatural ways to satisfy their lust! They are filled with evil.
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icono14 months, 1 week ago
After reading the article this question came to mind;
I wonder if the women from the compound are in a way trying to blame or at least 'paint a picture' of the authorities committing child abuse and or being 'grossly negligent/abusive' because of the 'special needs' of the 'detained' not being meet.
If so, that could take the spotlight of them the cult women, children and males and enable them to possibly get out of a very tight spot legally with the authorities and thereby hopefully end the 'discovery process' the state of Texas is undertaking.
Interesting twist if true.
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icono14 months, 1 week ago
I agree n2n. The cult is 'in too deep' now with the State and possibly Fed authorities.
But it is an interesting idea or at least a desperate try on their part.
I'm not sure of the cult's religious intent about the marriages but the bed's as reported placed and used would lead me to think that it was a 'wham-bam-thank you mam' sit up to 'consummate' the so called marriages.
What is with the young girls marrying much older men for procreation purposes; how does that fit into a 'religious values' system??? I truly do not get it or see the connection?
Gotta go now y'all; system is slowing down and going to crash. Gotta de-bug it.
I'll check back later if and when I get things cleaned up.
See you later.
Peace all.
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texangelwings4 months, 1 week ago
Wonder if the other LDS church could help these children, rather than to place them in foster care? I believe that some of these young women/mothers do not know any better, because this is the only life they have known!
I rather doubt that Gov. Perry will get involved!
Thanks not2needy!
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not2needy4 months, 1 week ago
That's a great idea tex, it would be very nice and helpful if the LDS churches got involved and tried to help these children.
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bill29364 months, 1 week ago
On problem, while the FDLS has same but not a lot of problems with other religions they just avoid them, when it comes to their dealings with the LDS church, that would be akin to a Sunni/Shiite relationship.
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ML20074 months, 1 week ago
I grew up close to where this compound is and have known of its existence ever since they moved there. Certainly if child abuse was prevalent, then the offenders should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Knowing Texas and it's child protection system, I would wait until all the facts are in before making final judgment on the alleged child abuse issues. I strongly suspect the caller that first told of abuse was planted by authorities to have an excuse to get to the compound. They have been trying to find an excuse to enter the compound to investigate it for years. I know this to be true because as a Minister in the area, a leading rancher and businessman asked me what to do about the rumors flying about such then, and that was almost 7-10 years ago. He told me local authorities were trying to investigate the property then. It sounds like things were out of hand at the sect ranch, but they deserve to considered innocent until proven guilty.
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crespi4 months, 1 week ago
That's a lovely sentiment ML2007, but I tend to give cults the benefit of my doubt. ALL MY DOUBT.
Readers know I'm a bit of a Religiophile and I've gotta say:
If you live in a Church "compound" you may be in a cult.
If you make sex forbidden between husbands and wives (like Jim Jones did) but then the Leader can have sex with adults and underage, women AND men (like Jim Jones did) you may be in a cult.
If you take ALL CHOICE away from the woman and fully control her as a girl and destroy her will by having the male authority figure forcefully taking away her virginity while religious mumblings or rantings go on, you may be in a cult.
(Here's my favorite)- If it is FORBIDDEN TO LAUGH (many do this) you are probably in a cult.
I tried to end on an up note...
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cushi4 months, 1 week ago
Imho, there may be some people in the sect who were not part of the rapes of innocent children, but there is NO way that some of then are not guilty...the blooming pregnancies of the young women being definitive proof!
I cannot truly consider those who may not have actively participated in those rapes not guilty, either, because they did nothing to intervene and stop those horrible practices. I am not speaking of judicial law now; I'm speaking of moral and spiritual law.
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ML20074 months, 1 week ago
cushi- my grand mother was 13 years old when she married, had 16 children and raised 13 to adulthood. She remained married to the same man until he died. She died with three different six living generations at the age of 99. Was she raped when she was a child and 13 years old? She moved to Oklahoma where the statutory laws were 14 at the time. In Texas, before we all rush to judgement of rape and abuse, I would like for us to slow down to gather the facts. That is all I am saying. I totally agree with your concerns, but the innocent, some of the mothers, fathers, and children of the group, deserve to be heard before they are convicted of public opinion.
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tkyrchncs4 months, 1 week ago
No doubt many of these children ARE terrified. They have been taken away from the only life they know, from those who have provided for them for all their lives. Examinations for rape are invasive, and frighten children who have been to the doctor many times before. I can't imagine that protective services could be prepared with caring homes for a sudden influx of more than 400 children. I am not (yet) saying that this is a wrongdoing, but no solution to this mess will be without problems for some of these children.
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memestryker4 months, 1 week ago
The trauma to the mothers and children is unfortunate. However, the mind-control lie they've lived under their entire lives is one of the most heinous things going.
It's only sad that laws we use to protect innocent people always end up helping criminals. In fact, they study the law and determine how to structure their activities so no one finds out.
Once people are brain-washed, most of them cling to it out of fear. One ex-FLDS female member said most women exhibit Stockholm Syndrome, much as Patty Hearst did.
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Georgia504 months, 1 week ago
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Dress makers across the world report a severe drop in the demand for ankle-length, old fashioned dresses. "It's inexplicable," said one Chinese sewing center manager. "One day we were shipping truckloads of these dresses to this place in Texas, and next thing you know all their orders were canceled."
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