Duly Consider: Globalization-Inevitable? Yes... Good Policy, No! »
Posted by: trnscndr 6 months, 4 weeks ago116 Comments Report this Story
DULY CONSIDER - It seems that Americans have fallen for one of the oldest political lies of all, that inevitability means we should join the pack. Yes, it is true the world is globalizing, and we stand to benefit if it is properly managed, but to suggest it is a positive policy goal to pursue it and to expedite it just because it is inevitable, is
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rwrnae6 months, 3 weeks ago
It was inevitable but it could have been done much more gradually and with much less disruption to people's lives. Short sighted greed is part of the answer but the stupidity of our elected officials and their iniability to forsee the consequences of their actions is just as much to blame. However the genie is now out of the bottle and it can't be put back. Some will adapt and do fine, many will not. America was one of the few countries in the world where upward mobility was truly possible. The chances for that for most people are pretty slim now. If you can, cash in on the global economy. Education is the key but the cost of that has price a lot of people out of the market.
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Amazing16 months, 4 weeks ago
Ah, but globalization is good for the big boys. Who cares about the peons. Those of us down near the bottom of the totem pole. We are the ones who will have to watch every penny to make sure that we have food on the table and enough gas to get to our dead end jobs. And we should all be willing to sacrifice for the greater grandeur of our lords. Thus may our fantasies become ever more resplendent.
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trnscndr6 months, 4 weeks ago
So called free market has become a code word for the majority vs the minority, and the majority will never voluntarily give rights to peons. It must be enforced in the name of basic human rights and one of those is the right to work and to make a living wage.
Under no circumstances should a so-called free market ever be so free that it expects people to work for less than enough to live!
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Lurch6 months, 3 weeks ago
In a free market we could borrow money from Japan @ 1-2% interest to pay for our mortgages. US Companies can import services and goods while laying off US workers, so why shouldn`t we the consumers be able to import goods and service likewise while bankrupting the power elite.
Instead, the housing industry and the US (world?) economy are going in the squatter. Since the collapse, how many billions have been created to support the homeowners? Since that time, roughly $100B has been printed and injected into the banking system to prop up their profits. So, the poor and middle class subsidize the rich again by getting stuck with a shrinking dollar and paying higher prices for imports.
Additionally, the "US Rule" system of loan repayment is actually so unethical and devious, it is illegal in most civilized countries. It is an additional private tax on the labor of the and middle class that goes directly into the pockets of the rich bankers.
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marshx6 months, 3 weeks ago
ofcourse the big boys care about you, just to the extent that you stay on your feet and keep feeding into their system. whenever it looks like you're at risk of falling off, they will throw you a 'Stimulus' package!
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Obaku6 months, 4 weeks ago
Globalization is only "inevitable", if we surrender.
I, for one, will never surrender!
Every government requirement of what is mandatory, or what is forbidden, is an infringement on liberty. Before accepting those restrictions, each one must be viewed in that light.
Tolerance means accepting DIFFERENCE, and every difference that is slaughtered on the altar of 'the public good' is an attack on every individual's free choice.
Globalization is an assault on the essential principle of LIMITED government, on individual rights, and on humanity itself.
"Give me liberty, or give me death!"
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Obaku6 months, 4 weeks ago
This is what the Senators of Rome believed, when Alaric was at the Danube. They saw things differently, when he stood outside the walls of Rome itself.
The British thought nothing of Andrew Jackson, when they demanded that he clean their boots. They saw things differntly, when they met again outside New Orleans.
In February, Nicholas II was 'Tsar of all the Russias', in March he was was not. In another year, he was just one more mouldering corpse among millions.
Sic semper tyrannis
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scriblerus16 months, 4 weeks ago
Globalization used to sound good--everybody working together. But the way it's working out, it's hurting the little guy big time. I'm going to lose 40 acres to some fat cats from PG&E pretty soon, and I thinks it's part and parcel of the kind of oligarchs that are trying to run the world now.
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lvrofwolves6 months, 4 weeks ago
For many many reasons and some don't even have anything to do with the almighty $
NO!
Basically I don't want other cultures to die out.
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Lurch6 months, 3 weeks ago
Gans on functions of poverty:
1. Poverty ensures that society's 'dirty work' will get done. Poverty provides a low-wage labor pool that is willing--or rather, unable to be unwilling--to preform dirty work at low cost.
2. Because the poor are required to work at low wage, they subsidize a variety of economic activities that benefit the affluent. The poor pay a larger share of their income in property and sales taxes.
3. Poverty creates jobs for many occupations that serve the poor: police, gambling, peacetime army, etc.
4. The poor buy goods others do not want and thereby prolong their economic usefulness.
5. The poor can be identified and punished as alleged or real deviants to uphold the legitimacy of conventional norms. To justify the desirability of hard work and thrift, for example, the defender of these norms must be able to find persons they can accuse of being lazy and spendthrifts.
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0-SukiDesu-06 months, 4 weeks ago
Globalization has caused us not to work together at all, but to work against each other to the point we may all ultimately starve, except for the rich who benefit no matter who we buy our products from.
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not2needy6 months, 4 weeks ago
OH scriblerus1, are they still going to do that with your property. I AM SO SORRY!
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Centinel6 months, 3 weeks ago
I said this before.
Lock and load! They will back off.
If not, When they come to take possession point a double barreled shotgun in their face and watch that smug look turn to abject fear. If you have any friends who have the courage to back you up, have them there too! ARMED!
I know, there are those who will say I am crazy. I haven't seen the new RAMBO movie yet but I remember a line in the trailer. "killing is easy when you are pushed"
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NelsonR6 months, 4 weeks ago
Blame our leaders, both Democrat and Republican.
Unfair trade policies can never benefit the average citizen but it will influence and lead to a greater bottom line for our upper 10 percent of Americans.
Free trade SHOULD mean, I import one billion with you and conversely one billion is exported to you. That's free trade but now the disparity is so obnoxious all politicians should be held accountable for the travesty that is.
More Americans WILL lose their jobs from outsourcing and the unemployment figures will skyrocket while our upper crust bottom lines are huge. Now they will give us crumbs to satiate the masses while secretly padding the books to make all look utopian. America has been sold down the drain and our elite SHOULD be made to pay for their evil intents and deeds.
Low paying service jobs are what politicians have in store for you in your future. Walmart, McDonalds is the future jobs. It is truly obnoxious what Wall Street has accomplished.
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trnscndr6 months, 4 weeks ago
The disparity is a result of unilateral policies without the US demanding enforcement of the human rights policies within trade deals. Clinton assumed future Presidents could and would enforce, but Bush certainly hasn't and congress has said nothing. They are both traitors to the best and fair interests of ALL people.
This should have resulted in China, Mexico etc, actually strengthening their human rights practices thus bringing up wages there while allowing living wages within other participant nations.
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NelsonR6 months, 4 weeks ago
trnscndr, do you really think our wealthy and Wall Street who invest in foreign entities desire human rights coming into the equation? Publicly they will be appalled by human rights abuses while the value and worship only the profit margin. That is a truism without any cynicism involved.
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Centinel6 months, 3 weeks ago
There is a word for what our scum eating bottom feeding "leaders" (rulers) have done to this nation.
TREASON!!!
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simonsez6 months, 4 weeks ago
It sounds as though You've all given up on capitalism and want government control of everything.
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blothbelt6 months, 4 weeks ago
Just the opposite, government via capitalism is a contradiction. The government's job is to protect people from the "free, unscrupulous hand" of the market. Fair market is okay, but "free" always leads to monopolies, cartels and a virtual raping of workers.
An economy cannot be measured simply by its maximizing profits for MNC's. If labor rights is not part of the equation, we will ultimately become a feudal state if we aren't already.
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simonsez6 months, 4 weeks ago
So, should business be forced to employ more people than they need? Should they make their growth decisions based on the employees desires and concerns? Should they ignore productivity gains in their business to save employees jobs?
Should we make them manufacture here when there may be an advantage for them to manufacture there?
Either Government tells business what to do and how to do it or it allows business to do what's in it's best interest and governs accordingly.
One is called capitalism; one is called communism. Pick your poison.
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 4 weeks ago
Capitalism is an economic system not a political one. Half the problem is many confuse and combine the two. Untethered capitalism decays into fascism as the capital inevitably ends up in fewer and fewer hands.
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Lurch6 months, 3 weeks ago
Capitalism is great if you are one of the few capitalists at the top. For the other 98% of the population it sucks because the capitalists automatically TAKE a commission for everything you produce, save, spend, or consume.
You work.
Competition is the enemy of the capitalist. I believe in the free market, which makes me an enemy of the capitalist.
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lvrofwolves6 months, 4 weeks ago
One of my fav songs Amerika by Rammstein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9EksAo5hY&feat...
it's sung in German, because they are a German band, the english translation can be found here
http://herzeleid.com/en/lyrics/reise_reise/amerika
Globalization will surely want to be managed by America, and we all know what a wonderful job our gov has done, especially recently in managing America :-/
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Radiofreeeuropa6 months, 4 weeks ago
Globalization among other things is the new improved slavery.
Why house, feed, or provide medicine to those "workers" when we can abuse and exploit them from a distance? Bonus- beats the domestic workforce into competing for the table scraps.
Busts unions etc.
Globalization is corporate imperialism, nothing more.
The "star trek" depicted co op has nothing to do with this tyranny in progresses clothing!
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texangelwings6 months, 4 weeks ago
Some of the very rich and powerful might want to be careful, after all they might have to rely on each other to work to make money, if they do not take care of the working people!
Free Trade is Free for every other country, just not Free to America. Mangoes were traded for Nuclear Technology.
I agree with your article, Bryan, thanks!
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Sock_Puppet6 months, 4 weeks ago
The crux of the article is the empowerment of the individual. And future trends point in that direction.
http://www.futureguru.com/10trends.php
So don't give up hope my friends. There is a lot we can do to educate ourselves and change our positions to achieve that power.
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uncle-dave6 months, 4 weeks ago
Globalization, New World Order, call it what you like it's not good for the common man. I found an article by Mike Whitney on informationliberation that was written in Nov. '06 that predicted the current mortgage crisis, $100 bbl. oil and the inevitable collapse of our economy.
http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?...
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denden796 months, 4 weeks ago
I'm really not going to join in on this because of the fact that so many good-paying USA jobs have been lost that I think anyone who thinks out-source... has been good for America is SICK and distorted.
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RothWelt6 months, 4 weeks ago
As long as there remains among the Gentiles any moral conception of the social order, and until all faith, patriotism, and dignity are uprooted, our reign over the world shall not come... And the Gentiles, in their stupidity, have proved easier dupes than we expected them to be. One would expect more intelligence and more practical common sense, but they are no better than a herd of sheep. Let them graze in our fields till they become fat enough to be worthy of being immolated to our future King of the World... We have founded many secret associations, which all work for our purpose, under our orders and our direction. We have made it an honor, a great honor, for the Gentiles to join us in our organizations, which are, thanks to our gold, flourishing now more than ever. Yet it remains our secret that those Gentiles who betray their own and most precious interests, by joining us in our plot, should never know that those associations are of our creation, and that they serve our purpose.
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truthiness6 months, 3 weeks ago
the move towards globalization is larger than just the recent corporate ush that has operated under this moniker.
it is actually the force of history.
from tribe to city state to nation state to federated states to to permanent alliances (NATO) to international economic trusts (OPEC, WTO, Group of 8), to multi state unions (EU, OAS) to whatever name is given for the next stages leading up to one world money followed by one world government.
this is inevitable. we do need to manage policy so that it is best for the citizen instead of resulting in a world corporate tyranny.
and the article is correct in that it is our choice as to whether we are participants in the way this inevitable social evolution occurs or if we are going to just let it happen to us.
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truthiness6 months, 3 weeks ago
one thing to consider that I never see brought up in these discussions of globalization is that if we can maintain net neutrality than it will allow the middle class an unprecedented opportunity to compete on near equal footing with the corporations
for example: I have a small e-business that has members from all over the british commonwealth of nations as well as the USA. Which means, if I have the skills, I can compete with the major corporations for customers in that region. not on the same financial scale, but then I do not have the same overhead either.
potentially, if managed properly by participating in the process, globalization can actually offer opportunity to the small business.
once you accept this is going to happen (you are not influential enough to change the course of history) you can choose to be afraid or choose to see opportunity.
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trnscndr6 months, 3 weeks ago
History tells us that empire-building is inevitable; so too is crumbling empires. Nations combine then break up. The US even broke up for a while and frankly has only thrived due to the competing interests of the states within a Republic. But we certainly never see Georgia acting in Alabama's best interest. That's healthy competition within a framework of Federal regulation. It works.
Don't get me wrong. I believe in most purposes of the UN, but not at the expense of each member's sovereignty. The problem with all these trade deals is they don't have enforceability so they encourage cheating with no consequences to the cheaters.
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truthiness6 months, 3 weeks ago
one empire crumbles and another springs up in its place. two steps forward(?), one step back. let's be honest.. "The West" is really one nation. and China contains how many nations? and isn't the Arab League really a nation (a lot of infighting yes, but)? The OAS has begun using organized militaries to try and squelch local issues, that is new so it will take a while to be effective.. And the COAS?
it has been observed, on this forum and elsewhere, that countries which trade with each other don't war with each other. What will be the result of the WTO.
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