Don't Be So Sure There Were No WMD in Iraq »
Posted by: pc25 1 year agoThe references cited in this article strongly suggest that: 1. WMD did indeed exist inside Iraq before the war. 2. The weapons inspectors were both fooled and bribed to ignore evidence. 3. Massive amounts of WMD were removed to known locations in Syria just prior to the war. 4. Massive numbers of Saddam's audio tapes and paper d
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browntiger1 year ago
Conspiracy theory from mindless republican.
1) Bologna. They existed because they were mostly purchased, the ones that were synthesized could not be made right ... There are plenty of documents that attests to this fact. Besides WMD Iraq had were no threat to US. Did they have nuclear research? I don't think so.
2) BS again. Soil samples? Radioactivity? Contaminated equipment?
3) Says who? We would have radioactive traces or soil contaminations. The fact that we don't have those blows your theory.
4) So what toilet repair documents where not translated. Big deal there.
5) Look if BushCo had any chance of substantiating those claims they would have. So would tony.
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pc251 year ago
some additional information courtesy of Zaph22
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/03/31/re...
http://donoevil.netscape.com/story/2007/03/31/w...
http://donoevil.netscape.com/story/2007/03/31/t...
to David and Zaph thanks for chiming in on this
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pc251 year ago
some info about clinton and wmd
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Ar...
and here also
http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/sg_dis...
check out the you tube video of Madeleine Albright,Bill Clinton,Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi,Joe Biden, Sandy Berger,John Edwards, the Hillary Clinton interview with Tim Russert,Howard Dean and company all warning about Saddam and his WMD program..........THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FLIP FLOP as usual.......deny what is there for all of you to see.....
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vor1 year ago
Obviously with your positives you are preaching to the choir but this is all PURE CONJECTURE. There is no valid evidence. You guys are beginning to sound like the 9/11 truthers you detest so much. If there were any such evidence the Bush administration (specifically Cheney) would gladly bring it forth.
Keep up the nonsense. As I said before if Rumsfeld allowed any such weapons to be moved he is completely responsible. Remember he said he knew where they were! We can read a sign on the wall from outer space yet you expect us to believe they watched large shipments leave these supposedly known locations. El-Baradei was right, he was not bribed. Where the h-ll is your evidence for that? We are the ones who ran the inspectors off.
And why have none of these weapons been used by the insurgents, many of them ex-Baathists? Aside from some very old binary chems (from pre GW1 again) that are dangerous for anyone to handle, there is no evidence of the use of any chems on that side.
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pc251 year ago
a few links to sites having translations of the Iraq documents
http://www.freerepublic.com/~jveritas/
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pc251 year ago
another link
http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php
and another
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/167189...
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jovial1 year ago
"There was a bustling black market for forged documents in Baghdad after the war. How will we determine which documents are real and which documents are not?" asks Weekly Standard columnist Stephen Hayes. We may not know for certain and gauging by the extremely poor quality of Hayes' output over the last few years, he might not genuinely care. The AEI's Reuel Gerecht posits that the government "does not have enough competent Arabic linguists to sift through and screen all the material." It's seemingly too much that they request assistance from reliable partners at home and abroad, so Gerecht would sooner have the government release the material into the hands of incompetents instead. [1] That's basically the fear of Michael Scheuer, the 22-year CIA veteran who headed up the Bin Laden Unit: "There's no quality control. You'll have guys out there with a smattering of Arabic drawing all kinds of crazy conclusions." Yes indeed. And surely that is the point.
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jovial1 year ago
Again, Bush already admitted there wasn't WMD. So on the contrary, it is those like you who have your heads buried in the sand! So we can conclude that Bush believed it when he went in, but after he was given proof there wasn't any, he admitted it. When will you show the same humility?
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JoseMadre1 year ago
Great article. I have been trying to tell the leftists for a long time that EVERYONE believed Saddam had WMD's and they were talking about them long before Bush became President.
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ballbuster21 year ago
maybe GWB agrees with the "people that hate him" because soon he can look back and say to EVERYONE kiss my a$$! you deal with it cause i'm goin fishin!
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Edmar141 year ago
I think Kennedy was extremely loyal to America. Maybe not to his wife, but to the country, yes. It was just after the Eisenhower years and the country was riding high on post war bliss and patriotism. Some like McCarthy went too far, but I think the times were such that both parties were very loyal to the country. Some were a bit misguided, buy loyal just the same. Just my opinion. But things were different back in 1960. Agreed this is a simplistic view, but in general, most people would agree that America was basking in the sunlight of the Post War era. Things began to change rapidly during the Vietnam years.
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ningyo1 year ago
we have found a lot of weaponry..enormous chemical stockpiles for one..the question for me is why the administration isn't using the bully pulpit to publicize it--the best explanation i've heard is that most of it was moved to syria by the russians..and we dont want to push them away right now..especially with their new best friends the chinese
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bill-smith1 year ago
The whole "sponsor of terror" arguement is a frace too.
You guys are a one trick pony, a broken record. You just keep repeating the same tired, cliched mantras over, and over, and over, and over...
Iraq did not support al Qaeda. Not even the White House is still trying to get that dog to bark.
And as for Iraq being a threat to America, why didn't we go kick Saddam's hinny when the Iraqi military attacked the USS Stark? Oh, that's right, he was our ally in the fight to contain radical Islam. Isn't it convienent how those who now oppose Saddam's regiem used to be the same one's who supported it. And isn't it convienent how our opinion of him changed from a container of radical Islam to a supporter of radical Islam when we decided he was bad.
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ningyo1 year ago
i like the comment about georgia too--they've been bury entire tanker trucks in the NJ pinelands for as long as theres been trucks--they just started to find them here and there in the 80's--and it was just 6-8 years ago or so they found hitlers chemical weapons dump in some greek ocean or something--that only took 50-60 years--and that was only because they started to catch oily smelly fish
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rockman0691 year ago
"Hmmmmm, Yanya, Why does fish stink? We no cook yet, and already rotten? This not good..."
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aceofspades11 year ago
sometimes little things show the lie to a statement - ningyo -- what Greek ocean? did we miss something in earth explorations?
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rockman0691 year ago
I had not thought of what would have happened had the US confirmed the existence of WMD in Hussein's possession, and the possible hand-off to other states of terroristic breeding grounds. The implications are severe, the ramifications incredibly grave. If they develop the ability to create ICBM's, our safe nation would become similar to the cold war, only we assumed that Russia would not press the button because of mutual annihilation. In the hands of terrorists, that assumption is irrelevant and the cold war suddenly becomes a powderkeg.
By covering up the transfer of WMD, we close our eyes to the awful truth implicated--other nations can and will use WMD at their whim, possibly sparking WWIII. We become vulnerable and suddenly the reality felt on 9/11 becomes all too real once again.
No one wants to live in fear, but there are many covert activities, and they are not necessarily government-based. John Q. Public realizes life is very ephemeral.
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Dionys1 year ago
The proof that there were and are *no* WMDs in Iraq is simple:
If there were the slightest proof or even reliable "suggestion" that there were WMDs in Iraq, the Bush regime would be screaming every single minute of every single day about how they were right and how important it was to go into Iraq.
The fact that they're silent on this matter as a rule is all the proof anyone with basic skills of logic needs.
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mr2041 year ago
Dionys does not understand diplomacy or "picking your battles". Why pressure Syria if Saddam's WMD is stashed somewhere safe with Russian assistance? It's not worth a fight unless al-qaeda or hizbollah start hitting targets with sarin gas that we know was supplied by Syria via the late Saddam Hussein. Read Sun Tzu. Seems most libs and other detractors are clueless when it comes to the "art of war". Just hope Bush and co. are reading it also.
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browntiger1 year ago
First there are no proof that russia hid anything. It is cooked repuking theories.
Second "sun tzu" has nothing to do with failed unilateral policies of crooked republican party.
Even *if* Iraq had small quantities of mustard gas it does not justifies call for invasion. It does not justify killing 600,000 Iraqis. Iraq clearly was not danger to US. And not to mention wasting $1T on the worthless, mismanaged campaign.
Meantime we lost all 9/11 organizers and people who protected them. Good going Dumbo W. And all I see cooks trying to come up with some bogus excuse.
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TryingToBeSane1 year ago
The point of WMD in Iraq is moot. Justification for the war is also moot. The destruction of the security of this country because of Bush's new Vietnam, and his incompetance in leading the new Iraqi government are the real issues. If I had been in charge, we would have taken an amount of oil as compensation for our liberation services for every day we'd be there. Someone would have found a way to get the Iraqi's going, or else we'd have gas at less than 2 bucks again.
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bill-smith1 year ago
Please explain to me - without blaming the media or the "liberals" - how, if we're finding WMD hither and thither in Iraq the President wouldn't be on television each and every day letting all of his detractors know about it? Please explain this to me so I can understand where your persecution complex is coming from. Until you can do this, this post and others like it are just circle jerks.
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Endoscopy1 year ago
Something left out of this story is the fact that two highly placed generals of Saddam Husein said after the war that there was standing orders if a conflict seemed likely to start they were to remove them to Syria. Most of this stuff is conjecture but it all adds up to what the Democrats don't want to hear. That there were WMDs.
WMDs were found but not much and evidence of where they were seems impossible to refute but the radical left refuses to hear what they don't want to hear.
Comparisons to Viet Nam are very appropriate since we have history to tell us what happens when we leave. The killing fields. Something the radicals understand but don't care about. They are the ones who always care and feel for peoples problems except in this case.
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bill-smith1 year ago
Ah, just a few facts for you:
First, the Killing Fields were in Cambodia - that's a different country, and the killings were carried out by the Kamar Rouge (you know, Cambodians) under Pol Pot.
Second, it was the Vietnamese, the Communist Vietnamese who overthrew Pol Pot and the Karar Rouge, thus bringing an end to the Killing Fields, and the fantasy that all communists are the same and work together.
Third, you know those communist North Vietnamese that we lost to, they're now one of our large trading partners in Asia.
But please, don't let facts get in the way of your fantasies.
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browntiger1 year ago
And yet more lies and no facts.
I know bogus claims that some how "adds up" to something ... right.
Iraq declared most WMD gases that they had. It wasn't a danger to US. Repukes wasted 1T on worthless mismanaged campaign.
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elzorro21621 year ago
How did this story make it to the "do no evil" section? This is conservative website. I commented this in another article:
{{Isn't it funny how Repubs criticize those with conspiracy theories (9/11, JFK, etc)as loonies, yet they buy into a scientific and political conspiracy in favor of global warming?}}
In this case, Repubs insist in believing WMD fairy tales! Go figure!
Z
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tdash1 year ago
The amount of right-wing paranoia and conspiracy theories here are laughable!
How can you function in your daily lives with such a lack of common sense?? We are to assume that Saddam had WMD, and instead of using them against the U.S. to save his regime, he shipped them off somewhere, right under our noses, and we did nothing to stop him??
And if you are still following the lead of my esteemed ex-Senator Rick Santorum by claiming that a few boxes of degraded chemical rounds left over from the 1980s qualify as WMD, you are desparately grasping at straws to advance your non-sensical argument.
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johnnyt1 year ago
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/14/sprj....
what about this? though it wasnt the "weapons" it was the labs to create them. the labs themselves could create vast quantities of "WMD's" in a few short months. they were hidden from inspectors and was clearly against the agreement after the first gulf war.
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Israel_Hamm1 year ago
A buncha baloney. If spy satelites had caught Saddam smuggling WMD to Syria, Cheney would have leaked to the media long ago. Just another unsuccessful attempt to re write history.
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