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Aurinkohirvi1 year ago
The radio show host is a stupid person.
You don't call a it a "Christian" crime, if someone who did it was a Christian. Or did someone call Pinochet a "Christian dictator"? Were those USA supported militias who killed tens of thousands of people in the Middle America called as "Christian militants"? Are Nothern Ireland bomb-using religious factions called as "Christian terrorists"? Is George W. Bush called as a "Christian mass murderer"?
You don't have to go so much back in time, when Christian people didn't give human rights to blacks or women. Or when Christian people killed millions of people in worlds wars, most brutally. Blasphemy is still a crime in many Christian countries.
After WWII education and mass media has penetrated western world more than the Middle East: we are better educated now. You should compare Middle East to Europe/USA over a century ago. It's not a religion thing. Both can be cruel.
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KingOfTruth1 year ago
Actually the Northern Ireland terrorists WERE Christian terrorists. Pinochet was merely a dictator. The militants were anti communist freedom fighters. Bush is a LIBERATOR from tryannical dictators and extremist governments. The wrold wars were not fought on a religious basis, except maybe by the Japanese.
And as to not giving equal rights to women or blacks, that was not all. The founding fathers based a lot of our laws on property rights and that property owners should be the ones who vote on the taxes and other things that affect their property. They were of the opinion at the time, and it was a good one, that people who do not own property should not be voting on taxes to be put upon property and it's owners. People who do not contribute funds to the public coffers, should not be able to vote themselves funds from those coffers.
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bumbaklotartattack1 year ago
And who are the ones killing Muslims all ovre the middle east for oil and greed. 1 million muslims are dead over in Iraq, perpetrated by self-proclaimed "christians", like anti-christ pastor hagee and pat robertson, in the name of freedom and democracy we all know as america, despite the fact that America is not a democracy but a republic, and America is anything but free. Hey, tell everyone where the WMD are in Iraq. Go ahead, tell everyone. Where are the wmd?
And that's pretty sad that you say people who don't own land shouldn't have the right to vote. First of all, do you own any land? I highly doubt it if you pay property taxes and don't have the actual property title (and i'm not talking about a copy of it) in your possession. In fact, at any given time, the government can come right in and take your property. also, these same people said all people were created equal, but i guess that just goes right out the window in your double-speak.
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cherev1 year ago
"And that's pretty sad that you say people who don't own land shouldn't have the right to vote. "
That's not what he wrote. Are you interested in what he actually wrote or do you prefer your interpretation?
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questionseverything1 year ago
property owners should be the ones who vote on the taxes and other things that affect their property. They were of the opinion at the time, and it was a good one,
thats exactly what he wrote
this radio peop was too stupid to listen to,as most neo cons he was rude,interupting every time the young caller tried to make a point
i can just imagine cherev outrage if jews were being discriminated against like this young muslim was
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cherev1 year ago
"thats exactly what he wrote"
But not what you said, is it?
"as most neo cons he was rude"
What makes him a "neocon" as opposed to a "true" Conservative?
"if jews were being discriminated against like this young muslim was"
How was he discriminated against? He was interrupted while he was trying to make his point. That's discrimination?
I have to take a break. I'll be back later.
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questionseverything1 year ago
the discrimination is lumping an entire set of peops as if they had one mind,one character
it would be like seeing isreal soldiers using palesteinian children for human sheilds and saying all jews would do things that horrid
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cherev1 year ago
"the discrimination is lumping an entire set of peops as if they had one mind,one character "
I don't believe that was done. Maybe you could be more specific? Besides, didn't you write that it was the young man who was discriminated against, not an "entire set of peops"?
"it would be like seeing isreal soldiers using palesteinian children for human sheilds and saying all jews would do things that horrid"
It's stupid to assume that the so-called "Palestinians" would actually care enough about their children that they wouldn't shoot them if they could murder a Jew in the process. But you know that, don't you?
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questionseverything1 year ago
srry chev its hard for me to keep up with the kind of hatred that seems to come naturally to u
the young man was muslim and the neo con radio host lumped all muslims together
i know palestenians and no they would NOT let their children come to harm...they r good hard working people just like most my neighbors
as to the neo con thing..this guy(radio peop) uses hate instead of logic for that reason alone i wouldnt call him a conservative
but u r correct neo cons is a term i use to lump the new evil together,but i would say they have no working mind and lil or no character
many peops on the thread have tried to say there r bad peops in all groups
i was looking up steven green in response to abus comment
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
hopefully he will nevr walk as a free man again
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cherev1 year ago
"its hard for me to keep up with the kind of hatred that seems to come naturally to u"
Yes, I can see you're just filled with love.
So all "neocons" hate, and no working mind, etc.?
Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. None of what you said made any sense, or made you look any different than those you claim to be against.
Last comment is yours, but I'm not going to read it as I'm done wasting time on you.
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questionseverything1 year ago
its amazing that u dont condemn steven green for raping a 14 yr old girl and murdering her fam just because she is muslim....
neo cons using hate as a tool has been going on since rush became popular
there r at least 2 sides to every story
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lovemylibs1 year ago
Liberal hate is from the heart so it makes it more just. Since it is just, you should take back your words. We are allowed to call all Republicans neocons because the Huffington Post sent all of us liberals an e-mail that listed that as the number one talking point. Without that, we don't have much. Please don't take it away.
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blowback1 year ago
Some truth, but not all of it.
We have encouraged fighting in the Middle East.
The British did the groundwork for a few centuries
before us.
Empire 101 - Divide & Conquer.
eg. Iran-Iraq War.
A war we enjoyed vicariously.
Our money and arms were on Saddam.
That's when he was a good guy because he was ours.
He went bad because he went independent.
We threw him out.
Now we're backing the Sunni's all over again.
We never learn.
eg. Operation Ajax.
The installation of the Shah of Irah.
25 years of brutal dictatorship.
The Iranian Revolution.
The Ayatollah.
The Hostage Crisis.
They may fight each other but we like it that way.
Maybe they'll wake up to that and turn their attentions
to us.
Maybe some of them already have.
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m-simon1 year ago
I blame the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
"To me it seems certain that the fatalistic teachings of Muhammad and the utter degradation of women is the outstanding cause for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have kept on developing"
-- General George S. Patton: The War as I Knew it
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Daylight1 year ago
PsychoHosebeast
I'm not sure this is the question you want to ask, because the answer would likely be, in all honesty, other Muslims.
Other Muslims are the partners of America in crime against the Muslims, other so-call Muslims are hypocrites who invited you to plunder their country by overthrowing Sadam Hussian.
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tiredofwhiners1 year ago
Sectarian violence is the result of one sect hating the other. What's Sadaam got to do with a millenium of Muslim infighting?
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goodgrief1 year ago
Bumb - I LOVE it when you people say Christians killed am illion muslims in Iraq. muslims KILLED A MILLION muslim IN IRAQ. You've been killing each other for over 1400 years - since the birth of your so-called religion. Which is really nothing but a co-opted version of Christianity and the Judaism before it. What islam really is? A political and power-grabbing movement
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tiredofwhiners1 year ago
bumb - One million Muslims killed by "Christians". A patently false claim that needs no explanation.
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wasntme1 year ago
US Constitutioon says a black man is equal to two third of a white man. That is what your founding father did put in the constitution. Thosw who lynched blacks would go to church with the rest of the Christian folks in th emorning and would do their lynching in the evening. US congress rejected many times the call to outlaw lynching. What were the christian folks doing about that then? Zionists have been spreadin gtheir evil in the name of Jews , where are the good decent Jews to protest that? were are the good decent Jews to denounce Zionism and the evil it spreads in the name of Jews? any thoughts on that? Saddam was a US puppet till he becmae a thorn in the eye, it had nothing to do with liberation from dictatorship, US allies in the Arab world are the worst of dictators, 15 out of 19 of 9/11 hijackers were citizens of America's darling Saudi Arabia, to overthrow Saudis would be a good genuine step in gettin grid of dictators. Thanks for reminding us about government lines.
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MajJohn1 year ago
The Constitution does not say anything about the black being two thirds of a white man, you're a really ignorant propagandist. There are those who go to a Christian church who pretend to be a Christian, so what's your point? Hypocrites abound in any organization including your affiliations. Where are the good decent Muslims who denounce the killing of all the innocents around the world? Nowhere, in fact they preach the killing of others as the way to salvation all the time. I normally do not respond to someone of your ilk and this is all you'll hear from me, I'll not engage in conversation such a stupid person as you.
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injest1 year ago
The radio show host is a stupid person.
You don't call a it a "Christian" crime, if someone who did it was a Christian.
If the crime was done in the name of Christianity then yes it would
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wasntme1 year ago
Saudis have been closest US ally for decades. They may not be your darling but they have been the darling of the government that Americans have voted in in the past decades till now. Just like China that has been given the MOST FAVORITE NATION STATUS.!! where is accountability by Americans to stand up against these policies? Ask Boorrrrrts he might know.
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wasntme1 year ago
That is your main probelm. You create a mess and then you don't give rat's ass . Is this called accountability? Boorrrrrrts would not be happy with you. Saudi Arabia has been the closest US ally among the Muslims and continues to be even as of today they teach their 8 graders that Christians and Jews are infidel and it is ok to hurt their lives and properties. US policy's short sighteddness is to blame...Why is it that the worst among Muslims are America's closes ally or at some time have been US clients?but then again lets face it..even as China did a little job in Tenyaman square, US continued and still continues to give them THE MOST FAVORITE NATION STATUS.
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repealthe22ndbush20081 year ago
The reason it is called a "Muslim crime" is because murdering non-Muslims is what is prescribed by the Quran.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
Bush is not declaring a Jihad..
In his own idiotic way he is trying to restore peace..
They have proven that there is no civilized way to deal with them, so even though Bush has no clear plan, it is because of their inability to co-exist with humanity that, now, even inocent Muslims are dying..
If Binladen and AlQueda are stopped the world can move forward towards solving its differences. While they exist, EVERYONE suffers...
There are only 2 actions possible:
Force the world to covert to isalm and remove all jews from Israel
OR:
Kill the bastards..
I'll give you my choice in the morning!
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AbuAmirah1 year ago
I do remember some violent christian protesting in regards to a Robert Maplethorpe sculpture of Jesus about 20 years ago
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kobzikov1 year ago
Actually somewhat recently Catholics protested over display of Chocolate Jesus in Roger Smith Hotel in New York. The exhibit was canceled because of that.
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dissent1 year ago
It was "Christians" vs Christians. Those "Christians" haven't invade and occupied those Christians lands for centuries, dictated to their governments what to do and caused the deaths of many. If they had there probably would have been. It looks to me like the conflict was not as obviously polarized as Christian vs Muslim.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
What did Indonesia, Phillipines, Bali, Nairobi, Kenya and all of those other non-American countries ever do to the Muslims? They want world domination in an oligarchic kind of way..
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blowback1 year ago
Indonesia, is the most highly populated Muslim
country in the world.
Terrorist attacks in Indonesia have focused
on Western interests.
Bali is an island of Indonesia.
While it is mostly Hindu, one of the very few
of Indonesia's islands that is, it is a popular
tourist destination for Westerners.
Mostly Australians.
The terrorist attacks in Bali targeted Westerners.
The Philippines is just north east of Indonesia.
It is literally a boat ride away.
Terrorism in the Philippines is mostly in its
southern parts, those that are closest to Indonesia.
In Kenya terrorism targeted, like the others,
Western interests. The US Embassy and the Paradise
Hotel. The latter was popular with Israeli tourists.
In all those examples, which may look like a lot
but is mostly Indonesia and then The Philippines
and Kenya, terrorisms attacks have been aimed at
Westerners, mainly American interests.
So your question what did they do to Muslims
doesn't make sense.
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blowback1 year ago
Indonesia also happens to be a former
Dutch colony. The US supported the
overthrow of its first independent
president, Sukarno, and the installation
of its first not so independent dictator,
Suharto. During the coup, many died.
The Philippines is a former Spanish colony,
and remains something of a US colony today.
Kenya is a former British colony.
I believe the colonization of these places
by Western interests and the hangover of
that legacy that continues today is also
relevant.
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tiredofwhiners1 year ago
It's hard to find anything good about blowing up western interests, killing Aussies, Americans, Israelis, Dutch and lots of others as "collateral damage". Leave it to you to find something "good" and justified about such terrorism.
The Phillipines is an independent country. They still remember being saved by American troops from Imperial Japan. If a country is friendly with another that doesn't make them "something of a colony", it just makes them an ally. The Dutch lost control over Indonesia long ago. Sukarno was a ruthless dictator. I know his former head of national police. The AK-47 was the answer to every problem.
Re: Former colonies. So if giving independence to all those former colonies results in such terrorism instead of developing themselves and moving on, then perhaps they shouldn't have let them go.
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kobzikov1 year ago
You're right, Filipinos were literally dying to become a part of US empire. I think they know very well what happens to countries who are not friendly with US.
And if they forgot, Iraq and Cuba provide marvelous reminders of what happens to those who are not friendly with US.
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blowback1 year ago
It's not a question of 'good'
it's a question of understanding.
Something you lack.
After the defeat of Japan,
American forces turned on the
Filipino communists who, up until
that time, had fought alongside
the US against Japan. They were
slaughtered. It was 'independence'
determined by Washington.
The Dutch lost control of
Indonesia during WW2. They tried
to regain in the post-war period
but failed. It was not 'liberated'
by the US. It was independent until
1965 and, because Sukarno showed
sympathies to the communists, the
US backed a much more brutal and
repressive ruler in Suharto. The
difference is that he, like so many
other despots including Saddam, was
armed, funded and supported by
the US. We just stepped aside
and let him slaughter communists
across all of Indonesia's
islands with our support.
In the same way they were
slaughtered across The
Philippines.
Your concept of 'liberation'
is nothing but imperialism.
It is pure hypocrisy.
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blowback1 year ago
Presidents in The Philippines
come with US approval or they
just don't last. Ferdinand
Marcos was one of the most
wasteful, undemocratic and
corrupt presidents in their
history but because he had
Washington's full support
he wasn't going anywhere.
He and his idiot wife lived
the high life while Filipinos
lived in abject poverty.
Even now, because of this
raping of the country's
coffers The Philippines
is one of the most impoverished
and weakest economies in
Asia. A third world economy
that is barely sustained by its
women who service the entire
region and the Middle East
as housekeepers and hookers.
The latter tending to the
US Fleet when it floats into
any town in the region.
But of course, they are a
loyal ally and that's all
that really matters.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
Right..So all that does is further go to prove that they will not stop until the entire world becomes Muslim..
That was why I am certain that as much as I am aginst this wasr in Iraq, they are not going to stop anyhthing until they occupy the entire world..
The mat leave Switzerland alone, but then they'll say it hel all of the Jews money in their banks, and that China was
banning Islamic rights..They will go everywhere and stop nowhere..
That was my original point..
It is not just about America..
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blowback1 year ago
You appear to infer that Muslims have invaded
and occupied Indonesia in a pathetic effort to
validate your driveling nonsense.
You better start re-writing the history of
the world to indoctrinate the human race
with. Do it pronto.
Someone else could call you out on your
efforts to make up stories to justify your
bigoted ignorance.
The point I thought I had made clear
in my comments was that they are not
using terrorism to advance their religion.
How can terrorism advance a religious
belief system? This is propaganda for idiots.
They are using it to liberate themselves
of Western imperialism. Their religion,
at least that of the extremists, is what unites
them. It is something they have in common
that they don't have to or want to share with
Westerners. In particular, Americans.
They define themselve by rejecting American
hegemony. Religion, culture, language
and race are a part of this rejection.
This kind of thing has happened many times
in history.
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blowback1 year ago
They do this to empower themselves.
They believe they are defining their
own image. They don't accept
one defined by a Western/ American
perspective in which they must see
themselves as inferior in every possible
sense. So rather than accept this cloak
of inferiority, a consequence of the
burden of an Imperialism not of their
choosing or making, they have rejected it.
Unfortunately this has inevitably led to
the violence we now describe as terrorism.
You believe they are trying to take over
the world. They believe we are trying to
do the same and they are trying to liberate
themselves from it. Either way, it will
not end well for either side if these points
are not at least acknowledged.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
Of course they didn't invade anywhere.
They move in like roaches and multiply with the plan to assimulate in order to immigrate, overpopulate and then
eventually, as the tests go out and the numbers get better
SMASH the government and do what the Taliban did..
Destroy 1,400 years of Buddhist culture, prevent Sikhs and Hindus from gathering, of course remove all Christians and get the remaining 10 Jews out and blame it all on them...
(I added that part)
They're doing it in Germany and France right now..
England is one step behind them...
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kobzikov1 year ago
You should apply for honorary membership in Aryan Nation, they'll love you there. This is exactly the kind of language they use. Although say that about all non-white immigrants. Do you not think the same thing about Mexican immigration to US? Or African immigration to France?
You'd think as someone of European descent you'd be really quiet about who destroyed more cultures in comparison, but I guess looking in your own backyard is not one of your stronger suits.
Did you really complain this loudly when Indonesia under Suharto regime was conducting genocide in East Timor with American and Australian support?
And did you know that there are a lot more Christians in Indonesia, majority Muslim country than Muslims in US? Who's more tolerant? US doesn't even accept refugees from Iraq who are fleeing the country because of the effects of American occupation.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
You raise a good point..
look how angry and frustrated this entire situation is
making what are normally mild mannered, law abiding humanitarians such as i have always considered myself.
This is definitely reaching a boiling point od not knowing what to do or where to do it!
Thank you for grounding me..|
Although I do believe that militant islamist are using
present day civilized laws to develop and build an
implosion..
Whether they do so by hiding amongst law abiding civilians with an effort to stir the pot, or with a combimation
of fear and mis-eduation while taking advantage of America and England's clearly dark past, they are not leading us to a better world. They are not offering any hope of peaceful co-existance.
They are leading us to Armageddon..
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
They never invaded anyhwere..They cannot.
They have no army.
What they do is immigrate, overpopulate, provide a safe haven amongst civilians( while they recruit them )to destroy the
host government and then strike when the numbers favor them.
Until then they cowardly hide behind civilians and do whatever it takes to stay close enough to destroy the present government.
They are not done with Indonesia yet, but they nearly finished off Afhanistan..
Taliban was their model society.
None of this is disputable..
It is fact, and it is happening
right in front of our eyes..
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blowback1 year ago
You are completely out of touch
with reality.
All this crap you spew could be
and would be more appropriately
applied to Christianity.
It is the religion that brought
imperialism, death, disease,
genocide and the eradication
of 'heathen' cultures to every
corner of the world for centuries.
As for their not being done with
Indonesia yet, Indonesia has been
Muslim for centuries.
Get over it.
You are a bona fide idiot.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
You justify terrorism and then call me an idiot?
Considering that it comes from a pro-terrorism
individual I am pleased to see that my comments displease you.
Your idea of a better world comes from the destruction of modern civilization, forcing conversions and the re-allocation of resources?
I won't be sitting home rooting for your side!
I'm trying to work for peace and you support
their heinous acts.
If your idea of decency is beheading gay people, suicide bombings (in lieu of negotiation) and
raping women,in the name of the Koran well, go send them a donation!!
Your ability to reach a common ground is severly filled with hatred.
The violent years of Christianity ended in 1500.
Get over it.
500 years of trying to build a better foundation of civility and people like you support
a new Crusade??
While there are many who are hungry and we should be working harder ro make this a better world, your support and
sympathy for their acts is disgusting.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
That just proves that if you permit "a large population" of them in your country they will destroy you!
Case closed!!
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AbuAmirah1 year ago
I'll tell you what that did. They annexed formerly independent Muslim countries. And its the radical extremist, who we're starting to root out that wants worldwide domination. Me, I just want work, mind my own goddamn business, raise and educate my kids, and watch USC football grind the NCAA under its heel
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kobzikov1 year ago
We'd have an answer to the question if the staff of Roger Smith Hotel didn't cave in and didn't cancel the exhibit.
I think if Dutch papers actually announced that they'd be running the cartoons and got the same protests as the hotel, then they probably wouldn't print them.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
Islam has been commandeered by evil power hungry haters.
The 70% that actually practice it for their beliefs are too afraid to separate themselves from it. The remaining 20-30%
have some undercurrent of hatred toward the white man or the jew and are complacent about whatever happens because they figure they can't lose.
They are a sad lot and eventually will have to be called out on whether their commitment is to a painful and barbaric effort to convert the world or to human decency.
Or they will be looked at as a cult!
2,000 years ago the Romans first saw Christians as a nuisance, then they became criminals, then they were
looked at as a growing cult and eventually their armies
were so spread out from chasing them they had to create the Vatican to redefine and gain control of Christianity.
It is no coincidence that the vatican is part of Italy.
The Muslims are a violent modern day version of
a "cult" out of control, because NO religion would permit
such violence.
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injest1 year ago
The hotel that houses the Lab Gallery announced the shutdown of the "My Sweet Lord" show after it was inundated with complaints regarding the six-foot confectionary Christ. In a letter that opened "Dear friends," Roger Smith Hotel president James Knowles cited the public outcry for his decision.
"inundated with complaints" "In a letter that opened "Dear friends"
So in your mind writing letters is the same as high jacking plans and flying them into buildings killing thousands?
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AbuAmirah1 year ago
You've guys have done your share of blowing people up. Ask that catholic girl procession, in Belfast, who did they feel after a protestant nut case threw hand grenades at them, or what about radical christians that blow up abortion clinics? Better yet, what about those lovely christians in the Lord's resistance army. Those lot have a nasty habit of kiddie soliders and hacking off limbs of people that don't agree with them
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tiredofwhiners1 year ago
I'm not Catholic, not Irish, not religious and I don't blow up people. Keep your examples realistic. I assume you guys means non-Muslim or American (those you seek to tear down).
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year ago
yeah all 7 abortion clinic bombers??
AND THEY don't kill people on airplanes..
We have rapists too, but they are "CRIMINALS" not an organized effort to harm innocent civilians..
Please!
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injest1 year ago
You've guys have done your share of blowing people up.
Those lot have a nasty habit of kiddie soliders and hacking off limbs of people that don't agree with them
You guys?
1. First I am not a Christian, Jew, Muslim I don't "do" religion.
2. I take it that your complete dodge of the question I asked means that you just made your statement up, it never happened.
Lets try again
AbuAmirah said:
"I do remember some violent christian protesting in regards to a Robert Maplethorpe sculpture of Jesus about 20 years ago"
My question:
Can you cite a source for your statement "violent christian protesting"
If yes, state it, if no admit you just made the claim up.
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engineer1 year ago
The problem is you classify all the Muslims the same. There are over 1.2 Billion Muslims of whom less than 10% are fanatic. Most decent Muslims are very upset over the fanatics and want to be great contributors. I would expect this rabble rousing from the A-hole Rash Bimbo. L9imbaugh is nothing but an evil whois the voice of the neocons!
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dissent1 year ago
engineer said there are 1.2 billion Muslims. The reason engineer said there are 1.2 billion Muslims is to give you some idea just how much difference of thought and opinion may be represented by 1.2 billion people. 1.2 billion people. Now you think you've beaten this point by comparing the classification of Muslim with neocon. That means you have compared the diversity represented by 1.2 billion people with how many? A few hundred at best? I think it is actually quite easy to classify a Neocon because there really aren't that many of them, even if they weild so much more power and control than 1.2 billion Muslims. The fact that so few are able to affect so many already provides a clue to a major source of the problem. I know this is probably all a bit difficult for you to understand. Homogenous vs Heterogenous. Still having fun?
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injest1 year ago
The problem is you classify all the Muslims the same. There are over 1.2 Billion Muslims of whom less than 10% are fanatic.
Okay fair enough, so why don't the other 90 % stand up and stop the less than 10% are fanatic?
Are the other 90 % unaware what the fanatics are doing?
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