Army Missed Recruiting Goal Again »
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ABC News has learned the Army missed its recruiting goal in June for the second month in a row. It's the first time in more than two years that the Army has missed recruiting goals for two consecutive months.
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supabro151 year, 1 month ago
How about we support our soldiers rather than insult their intelligence?
i have a buddy that just signed up. i didnt think of him as the brightest person in the world, but when you get a 20K signing bonus, 50K for college afterwards, benefits like the military gives, and something to put on your resume, why not give it a try if your not going to college? sounds pretty damn smart to me.
hes in the MP, and is going to iraq soon enough.
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gfarral1 year, 1 month ago
I have sent messages and care packages to the troops. I also last Thursday accepted my Blue Retiree card from the military.
Now the question I have for today's enlistee's: What is it you think you are fighting for or against? One cannot bring Democracy to a land that has never had it overnight. Why should we take Democracy to them when we no longer have a Democracy at home? This administration has become dictatorial and tyrannical. We have no rights from the Bill of Rights anymore in the name of Homeland Security. That is not how one achieves security. You cannot tell one people you will have XYZ rights under the laws of a Democracy while denying those same rights to detainees. That is a mockery of our system.
Bless all who fight in our name and may they come home safely.
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
ask your buddy how he feels about that move five years from now after his third tour, after he realizes the higher ups have no real plan, after he sees that the army's got him by the balls and there's no way out of it, after the PTSD kicks in, after he's seen enough innocent iraqis suffering, after he's dealt with enough cowboy blackwater mercenaries with better equipment making ten times more money than he does and not obeying any rules.
thats what happened to my cousin's son.
to your friend: good luck and be safe.
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xlegultx1 year, 1 month ago
Or people just don't see the point in risking their lives in a senseless occupation.
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queenb7271 year, 1 month ago
Not many people want to sign up to go get shot, blown up or Post traumatic Stress Disorder.
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AmericanIdiot1 year, 1 month ago
Or even worse, face trial for following orders, while superior officers are not even named
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Charlson1 year, 1 month ago
Is there a relationship to our military not reaching their recruitment goals and the insurgent's unending supply of recruits in Iraq?
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david_nwpa1 year, 1 month ago
I suspect young kids these days learned a lesson we should have understood a long time ago. Why bother signing up to save our country, when Dumya is likely to put you in a box for eternity? Seems to me these kids have a lot more to live for than fighting a war for big oil companies. Iraq has turned into a meat grinder and Bush is the butcher. Cheney is not any better for his complicity.
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GWHayduke1 year, 1 month ago
Just because the desired results were not achieved does not mean that the intentions were never solidified.
Just goes to show what a bungled, grossly incompetent hack job this 'war' has turned out to be.
If you think we went to Iraq to liberate their people from the evil oppressor and to eliminate WMDs that never existed....well who's the fool?
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quackpot1 year, 1 month ago
CrazyRay,
Perhaps you have forgotten Wolfowitz' pre-war calculations showing that the cost of the Iraq invasion would be paid for by oil revenue?
Perhaps you have ovrlooked the all-important oil-revenue sharing that the U.S. insists on as a key progress goal for further support?
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AmericanIdiot1 year, 1 month ago
I wish to h*ll people didn't have to learn the hard way, but that's just the way it is.
Welcome to the middle east, folks. Not a nice neighborhood.
You can never back down or run away, you just catch a bullet in the back.
Every one you kill, his whole family comes back for revenge.
This war was a mistake, based on lies.
But we are in it now, and we'll have to play it out to the end of the game.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 1 month ago
Surprise, surprise. While being a defender of our nation would be an appealing thing to many young folks, risking life and limb to support a lunatic foreign policy and enrich war-mongers is not.
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walden31 year, 1 month ago
our leaders who never served hate the military. oh sure, the military is a great audience to give a speech to with all the flags and uniforms and such, and our leaders love to act like chimps and put their chimp arms around our sons n' daughters in uniform for photo ops.
but when it comes time to give em guns that shoot, vehicles with armor, equip the VA hospitals, fresh drinking water, body armor, palatable food, or even the niceties that all the soldiers ask for like sunscreen, bug repellent, good knives, handiwipes and so on fuggedabudit.
they put em in unwinnable wars with shifting justification that the american people understandably cen't get behind.
they hate the military and it shows.
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canadianrancher571 year, 1 month ago
If this war was for a just cause I wonder if the recruitement of the young people from your nation would be as hard. There is always a segment of the population who view the military as a good career choice, but I think that this conflict will affect your military for years to come. There are always people who profit from war but in the furure it may cost these people more if they wish to stage acts of agression with no nobel cause.
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GMendel1 year, 1 month ago
You do know that base pay for 2 year and under soldiers is like 1300 a month. You get that fliping burgers at mcdonalds 2 days a week. That is realy not that much espacily when there is no moral or just cause for being there in the first place,other than the fact bush wants to be in the history books.Just get bush and his budies to give all the soldiers a monthly bounus..... im sure they are profiting enough for it.
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Bkumm1 year, 1 month ago
Look man, I spent six years in the Navy as, at best, an E-5, they make WAY more money now than I did ten years ago.
I'm not suggesting that it is enough or that I like this war in any way, shape or form. What I am saying is that $25,000 tax free is a lot of money to most people. Yet, the Army still can't hit its recruiting goals.
Also, an E-1 (private) barely needs to know how to tie his shoes to be able to get in. Free medical and dental also add up to a lot. I'm not saying that they get paid a ton of money, but a guy right out of high school with no other education would have to look pretty hard to find that kind of job.
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Squedge1 year, 1 month ago
What concerns me is what may be considered necessary to galvanize the nation and get the war drums beating again. A physcological draft would be politically safer then a traditional draft. I just hope people have become more educated in the use of false flag operations; unfortunately the people who call a spade a spade, if something like this were to happen, will be called unpatriotic tinfoil hat wearing crazies.
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Teaselle1 year, 1 month ago
I agree with Pismo. No one wants to risk their life for a country who doesn't want our troops there and for a war where the costs far outweigh the benefits. Many of our troops are losing their lives and and the President and military are asking our men and women to join and fight against terrorism. Yet, I don't see the children of these politicians enlisting to fight a war supported by their politician parents. I believe I've heard of two or three instances where a politician's son has enlisted and will be going off to war. As for the incentives to enlist, that's great for these men and women, considering what they are giving up. But what about while they're at war or return from war? Where's our government with their rewards then? Their families here suffer because of the poor pay and when they return many cannot find jobs, or decent jobs and many are too injured to work. I support our troops but this war has been botched from the start.
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unorthodoxic1 year, 1 month ago
A draft will be the very last resort of this failed administration. Considering the lack of support for the Bush gang that already exists, a draft would surely become a tipping point. I remember the anti-war demonstrations and riots of the Viet Nam era, Bush would never be able to cope with similar circumstances. I believe that avoiding the popular upheaval that would accompany a draft is the only reason that the corrupt capitol cabal has not initiated one by now.
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Codi69341 year, 1 month ago
Democrats have spoke of the draft not Republicians. Even one of your Pres. hopefuls spoke of a civil service to invite more young people to take pride in there country.
SO, be careful of what you wish for ie Democratic White House. Your enthusiasm could turn into desert boots and ACU's.
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unorthodoxic1 year, 1 month ago
Ah Codi, the Democrats called for the draft for precisely the same reason that the Republicans don't want one. As I said, the GOP would never be able to withstand the demonstrations. This unresponsive administration with its immoral war has alienated most of the country without regard to party affiliation. BTW, I don't favor any presidential hopefuls yet. At this point, almost any one of them would be better than the present crew.
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joeblowe1 year, 1 month ago
So - a couple of years ago they ALSO missed their numbers two months in a row. And today, for some reason, this is NEWS? All things considered, I'm surprised they don't miss their numbers EVERY month. But then, youngsters are more willing to take a chance with their lives than us older, wiser folk. We have 12 million invaders right here at home and they send our army to Iraq to protect THAT border? Screw 'em, I wouldn't sign up either.
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mr-breaker1 year, 1 month ago
People in the coporate world dont always respect people with a military background. Those commercials can say whatever they want but ini some case having a military background could be a bad thing.
On top of that, Why would anyone want to go into the Army and make 30K in Irac when you can drive a oil truck and make 100K a year and do a lot less BS?
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saneman1 year, 1 month ago
In order to get the recruits that they do, the government lies by telling them that they will not be going to the Middle East. It's sad that they have to resort to trickery to get kids to sign up. It should be up to Halliburton and the oil companies to recruit security personnel to protect their so-called interests in Iraq.
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aceofspades11 year, 1 month ago
Did you know that the number of "independent contractors" in Iraq now meets or exceeds the number of troops. Many of these are construction workers, administrators etc. But there is a huge amount of "security" people better defined as mercenaries there, who get paid much more than any soldier. If you're going to get your ass shot at it's better to get paid for it.
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aceofspades11 year, 1 month ago
We'd be out of Iraq if there was a universal draft - then it wouldn't be some guy/girl who signed up for the petty bonus or a job & it wouldn't be some reservist who extended his service to get some extra bucks for a week in camp who now finds himself caught up in this fiasco.
If there was a draft there would be people in the streets demanding an end to Bush's meglomanic excursion
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NelsonR1 year, 1 month ago
All Americans would sign up in a second if we were attacked by any foreign nation.
Iraq, when did the attack us?
No American man should have to make the moral choice to fight an aggressor war by America by a dictatorial man, Bush.
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NelsonR1 year, 1 month ago
None of the conspirators on 9/11 were Iraqi and even if they were, no excuse to attack a nation. Afghanistan yes since Al Qaeda planned and executed the attack while being harbored by the Taliban. Lest we forget, what? Your analogy really is quite abysmal and actually quite funny in an inane sort of way.
Most of the 9/11 attackers were Saudi's, did we attack Saudi Arabia? That's what makes your post sound like it was from the dictator George inane Bush.
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Teagen1 year, 1 month ago
Who are you trying to kid? You had a school shooting a few months ago where everyone just sat on their butts waiting to be shot, didn't anyone remember 9-11 then? You stand up to terror. The problem is your living in an Oprah world. Everyone wants to "share" their feelings or "talk" to the enemy. When dealing with a bunch of Nazis, talking only allows them to reload.
If this was truly a dictatorship, the FBI would be in black uniforms rounding you up already. Dictatorship indeed. Travel to some of the world and see just how foolish you sound. Then again, that would mean you'd have to leave your coffee house or college or mommy and daddy's basement but I think it would change your mind. Come to this part of the world and see what it means to have a corrupt monarchy or tinplated dictatorship to live under. If you don't you'll never know how truly good you have it.
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badnootka1 year, 1 month ago
Well said teagan. We have become complacent in our safe little western world. We have the right to critisize our government and we do. Those who seek to destroy us would have no similar rights and would deny even the most basic of human rights based on your religion. Know who your enemy is!
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TCmuench1 year, 1 month ago
Thats the problem, terrorists have no nation. The US is waging the war on terrorism as if it were a conventional war. Our intelligence gathering agencies have been hamstrung by past administrations and the military is as a whole not equipped or trained for counter-terrorist operations on a large scale.
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Teagen1 year, 1 month ago
Gee, big surprise. The media attacks the military on a regular basis and the numbers are down. As to some of the ramblings of cowards hiding, the 9-11 folks weren't from Iraq but trust me, AlQaeda is here now. They're being funded by the likes of Iran and Syria. We are the last super power. We have the best military with every weapon you could want for war. Even with the best toys, if the people don't support you, we can lose this thing.
Some day history will look back and talk of America and the war on radical Islam, just like they do about France and the UK when Hitler was climbing to power. I only hope our liberal friends come to realize who the real enemy is.
But then again, here we go again. Now attack me. Claim I'm a war monger or just a domb woman who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Get the hate out of your systems.
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Squedge1 year, 1 month ago
You have a lot of hate in your system, the main difference between you and your liberal friends is you hate whoever you are told to hate (I do realize how hypocritical a statement this must seem from your perspective). BTW your "liberal friends" hope you can "come to realize who the real enemy is" as well. I think everyone realizes how great they truly have it; but the reality is the America we love is slowly being taken away. I can tell you love your country, and so do I, but you are the one living in a fantasy world. That said, I do not hate you, I just completely disagree with most of what you say; there is a difference.
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Teagen1 year, 1 month ago
Well, anyone shooting at me with an AK47, blowing up my late husband or firing a ZU-23M at my plane, I consider my enemy. If you strap a bomb vest on your kid, using him or her as a walking bomb, I consider you my enemy.
My liberal friends, those who served with me don't exist anymore. After a few hours of live fire war zone type living, you tend to stop trying to talk to you enemy. You learn it only gives him a chance to reload most of the time. Fantasy world, try night mare.
As to enemies, I worked around many of them in DC. While there, the libs love to pose for photos with troops, especially an officer while visiting Arlington. Makes a great holy picture. Widow Navy woman visiting her Marine's grave. The cowardly liberals are who I consider our enemy in the USA. They don't use bombs, yet. They use the freedom of speach folks like me are trying to protect. Lose us and you're praying to alah 5 times a day. They will come.
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badnootka1 year, 1 month ago
We hate those who are trying to kill us. Radical Islam is not your friiend despite how much love and respest you have for your fellow man. THe america you love is under attack and you do not even recognize this. You have blinders on and when the big blast happens here in the US (again) will you see your own governments hand in the act rather than the real enemy? You are listening to Rosie far too much.
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pcknowledge1 year, 1 month ago
What Hitler did can not be compared to Islam.
Teagan no Iraqi was involved in 9/11. No Iraqi was involved in the Embassy bombing years ago.
Our foreign policies are not conducive to peace in the Middle East. Our very own CIA trained people like Saddam & Bin Ladin because our own not so "intelligent" government officials thought those Individuals would be good for business, and would help our government control the oil in the Middle East. Well it backfired, those people the CIA trained decided they didn't want us or any western forces in their country. We invaded Iraq, they did not invade us.
There is no "Radical Islam". There are Terrorists who are determined to get western forces out of the ME regions. There are Terrorists who detest our government's support of Israel in the Israel/Palestine conflict. Continued...
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pcknowledge1 year, 1 month ago
People are angry about the civilian deaths in Iraq, & the Middle East is now a breeding ground for more Terrorists. I call them Terrorists because their methods kill innocent civilians. No different then what Bush has done with his war strategy. It's a cycle of violence perpetuated by Bush when he bombed Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11. The invasion of Iraq won't help Bush find the Terrorists. Speical US forces could get BL in Pakistan, Al Qaida in Kashmir & Afghanistan. (Not by dropping bombs & killing civilians though). But by erradicating Terrorist cells. As you mentioned on numerous occassions we have the best technology, the best weapons to do that. Now we need a President who can use them effectively. Not against a country like Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11. But against real Terrorists like BL. They are reported to be on the border between Afghanistan/Pakistan. In Kashmir, covertly supported by the ISI.
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